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  • http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/08/school-pupils-hospital-patients-risk-killer-pollution-mps

    schools... fitted with air-filtration systems to avoid the minute particles and toxic gases emitted from vehicles.

    Er... fit air filtration systems in schools?
    or reduce number of people driving near schools

  • ^or reduce the number of people driving?

  • ^and increase number of people walking and cycling?
    (which will lead to healthier kids and fewer people in the less polluted hospitals with respiratory illnesses)
    Wonder why that committee of MPs didn't think about that solution...

  • Wonder why that committee of MPs didn't think about that solution...

    Too busy grumbling about forrins using the M4

  • That was a nonsense - some immigrants may be desperate, but few are desperate enough to go to Wales.

  • or too busy playing Candy Crush to come up with an integrated transport policy (or any joined-up policy, come to think of it)?

  • Carnage out there this morning. Both a pedestrian and a motorcyclist have been killed by lorries it seems.

  • I thought the black logo was going to be reserved for community tragedies?

  • Stephen Joseph, of the Campaign for Better Transport, said: "I think the motor industry is wholly unprepared for the way in which the science is turning against diesels. The sciences is hardening up and it is showing different and serious health damage which is a really serious problem.
    "All this emerging science I was going to have wide ranging ramifications, both in terms of the kind of cars we drive and where they are driven.

    You fucking what mate? Have the Telegraph deliberately made his quotation grammatically shocking so as to support their points or what?

  • Not aware of this, which topic was this discussed in?

  • Hah, and people who buy diesel car with low enough commission to be exempt end up being banned.

    You know what work better in the past? messing up the traffic flow encouraging people to take public transport, walk or cycle.

    That went well until Boris decided to fix it to "smooth traffic flow".

  • Not good news for those of us who went out and purchased diesel cars thinking they were producing lower emissions and were less harmful, on the governments advice.

  • @Emyr @edscoble

    Either way, sad news. Sorry for the family and friends.

    I think the point is still pertinent though.

  • You know what work better in the past? messing up the traffic flow
    encouraging people to take public transport, walk or cycle. That went well until Boris decided to fix it to "smooth traffic flow".

    Please...elaborate.

  • Congestion Charge for example?

  • Amen. Bugger.

  • That was a financial deterrent. Do you have examples of intentional gating (apart from Olympic ATM) ?

  • I recall vividly years ago that the traffic light phrasing for instance are not quite in favour to motorists (peds light used to be quite long) under Ken Livingstone.

  • Vividly. Such science.

  • I'd say in terms of crossing timing peds have got it better now. Ped-Xs are now de rigueur as opposed to pelicans which caused driver intimidation and puffins that, well no one aprt from the DfT knew what they were about. Ped timings are also a lot more consistent throughout London now before they were so inconsistent. TfL's also working on ways to respresent pedestrian demand more intelligently eg Ped SCOOT. I wouldn't attribute these changes to Boris but it's inaccurate to say it was better for peds before, it wasn't. (not saying it's great now either)

    I'm sure I'm wrong about many things and someone like Oliver would probably correct me but I feel it's dangerous to make wild claims without being able to substantiate them.

  • FFS Tibbles! Did you not read the word vividly?

  • Don't they make pornos?

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