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  • Is fracking a cross between fucking and cracking?

  • Fucking while you're on crack...

  • It's a Battlestar Galactica reference.

  • I agree it's too short term. More money should go into nuclear fission research, I say.

  • They are a sect related to Satmar that is pretty much despised by most Jews in the world. They are known to openly support anyone--- including terrorist organizations--- that pronounce goals of destroying Israel, NK figurehead Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss while not denying the Shoah--- his grandparents died in Auschwitz-- has been known to befriend Holocaust deniers who share his hate for Israel. A number of their members in the UK has been declared persona-non-grata by their Satmar synagogues. They are, to put it lightly, well meaning arogant fools. Its not also like Satmar are Zionists. Their previous Rebbe and founder (as a break-away cult from Sigheter, as his older brother was deemed their new leader when his father died) Joel Teitelbaum was a well known anti-Zionist. So much so that he let himself be saved by the Kaster train (a Zionist organized train) but saw to it that many of his followers stayed behind in Budapest to meet their deaths. After the war the Rebbe refused to accept that Zionists saved him but attacked the whole operation as evil. "G-d saved me, not Kaster"..His nephews now follow in the footsteps of the Rebbe with complete hate for one another and with two rival sects. One led by Aaron and based in Kiryas Joel--- the city officially with the highest level of poverty in the US--- and the other by Zalman in Williamsburg (Brookyn) with the great tradition of celebrating Simchat Torah (the Joy of the Torah,festival) by violently attacking one another (the joy of riots) . Satmar are currently the fastest growing and largest (Chassidic) Jewish sect in the US with over 120,000 members (larger even than Chabad, a worldwide sect whose followers believe that their Rebbe is the Messiah despite having died 20 years ago)...

    The basis of their position follows the Talmud Midrash

    The Neturei Karta interpretation allows them to individually live in the land of Israel--- most of the NK members live in Me'a Sche'arim (Jerusalem)-- but to view the collective of Israel as violating the 3 oaths and, following the Satmar Rebber, heresy.

    Many Satmar see the State of Israel in the way of the coming of the Messiah and the rebuilding of the Temple. That Israel is a secular country with a free democratic judicial (and not the Beth Din or rabbinic court ) and, worse still, using modern Hebew as a language, they see as near ultimate sin! Tschuva Tschuva Tschuva

    When the "Messiah" comes? Then they can finally eat that BLT...:-)

    That's a lot of text to waste on ad hominem.

  • Shale gas extraction (known as fracking nowadays) has been going on for about half a century.

  • Kinda, fracking has been used on oil and natural gas deposits for 50 years, shale gas extraction has been going on for longer but fracking to remove shale gas is relatively new and poses a lot more risks.

  • It's just another excuse to use up what's left of fossil fuels as quickly as possible and damn the consequences. Short termed, blinkered, I'm-alright-Jack-pull-up-the-ladder thinking at it's best.

    For the sake of future generations, we should be looking to invest in renewables to ensure we're not fucking up the planet anymore.

  • That's true - but by its very nature it's long term.

    We can't build the number of nuclear plants that we need right away - or, better, take the money from that ridiculous vanity project HS2 and develop Fusion to the point of commercial viability.

    So we need gas and oil right now, and for the foreseeable, more and more as the old nuclear plants are shut down and we transition onto a mainly gas-turbine powered electricity grid.

    Gas that we have to buy from Putin, granting him what amounts to immunity from us applying any meaningful sanctions/other actions.

    Realistically he can do what the fuck he wants, and we have to suck it up, because he's got what we need.

  • Fusion, that's what I meant. Not the other one.

    I know NRGz, me

  • I'm stockpiling wood (literally) ahead of winter, I am hoping to use as little gas as possible, just because, really.

    I'd quite like to be grid-neutral, capable of micro-generating my own power needs, and maybe even distilling my own fuel for the car (they go quite fast running on methanol), but that's going to have to wait until the move to the country.

  • Fusion, that's what I meant. Not the other one.

    I know NRGz, me

    In which case this should clearly be quoted for posterity:

    I agree it's too short term. More money should go into nuclear fission research, I say.

    Cue "stevo_com sez" meme. :)

  • You can't deny that fission generates a lot of power, really quickly.

  • ^^Nerged for bullying

  • That Schick is in no way a helmet, I say.

    Like that?

  • A very suitable example. Or: stevo_com sez 'LOL means "lots of love", LOL'. :)

  • LMAO - Leave Me Alone, Oliver

    sniff

  • A lot of micro generation would be a big help, rather than fucking up the countryside and the watertable to keep prices down for a few years.

  • Well, yes and no - it is, by a huge margin, less efficient than the current system, but it doesn't require the infrastructure that we have to maintain (and need to replace largely right now).

  • Less efficient isn't such a problem when you don't have CO2 as a byproduct of production, either way fucking up half the country is not the answer.

  • Ebola in Lagos?

    It's been nice knowing you all

  • everyone looking forward to the next soccer world cup? i suspect this sort of awfulness will only get worse as the months tick by. Fifa. The world's premier slavery enablers.

    http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/jul/28/qatar-world-cup-migrants-not-paid-building-office?CMP=twt_gu

  • Not much difference to building Dubai from the sound of it.

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