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It's because of people's obsession with all things retro - now they want to reintroduce Victorian slums and ghettos.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/feb/13/london-council-relocation-benefits-cap

" Camden council plans to move 761 poor families from London
Council says welfare cuts force shift of 2,816 adults and children to areas up to 200 miles away with lower housing rents "

This'll get some hackles raised

Council rent for a 2 bed flat in Camden is £340 a month! that's about a grand under private sector prices even for an ex LA flat on an estate in Camden. Fair enough if people have to move, I wouldnt be able to afford living there unless it was subsidised.

I kind of assumed those prices were weekly.

In that article Camdem council are looking at buying property in the Midlands etc., After they chuck them out of London is it still Camdem that will be paying benefits and what not, or are they dumped onto Birmingham's waiting list?

we pay £3600 a month in camden..

how many bedrooms?

5

That pays Ronnie's rent for a year in Manchester!

move to finsbury park

These no-legged gags are awful guys...

i blame clive for starting it

Council rent for a 2 bed flat in Camden is £340 a month! that's about a grand under private sector prices even for an ex LA flat on an estate in Camden. Fair enough if people have to move, I wouldnt be able to afford living there unless it was subsidised.

If only the council owned all property, then they could set fair rental prices.

^^He didn't put a gun to your head.

Have there been an officer that have been convicted yet?

It does seem rare, but it does happen on occasion:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/23/police-officer-dangerous-driving-cyclist
No idea how the rates of convictions against officers (who stand trial) stand against rates of convictions against everyone else though.

^^ some places do.

fine for dropping chewing gum everywhere is 100% right.

spitting should be allowed on the road, not pavement imo.

These no-legged gags are awful guys...

yeah, pull the other one... Oh.

^^ some places do.

fine for dropping chewing gum everywhere is 100% right.

spitting should be allowed on the road, not pavement imo.

this ^

it's amazing how many big green flobs there are on my average journey to work
it's like doing the irish jig on some sections

I always told people Oscar was a prick, everyone always thought I was being intolerant or something. He was clearly a rotter.

If only your message had got through in time.....

A Labour government would seek to re-introduce the 10p starting rate of tax scrapped by Gordon Brown in 2008, Ed Miliband has announced in a speech.

Mr Miliband said it was a "very bad mistake" to get rid of it and the move would send a "clear signal" his party was on the "side of working people".

The move, worth about £2 a week for people, would be funded by a "mansion tax" on £2m properties, he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21453444

I know I know I shouldn't say it but £2 per week what difference is that really gonna make Ed ?

thats the thing about taxing the rich and taxing the poor
you can tax the rich but the real world effect is that you won't raise a huge amount because the section of society is so small
you can tax the poor and you'll make huge changes because that section of society is so huge

it's a vote winner but it won't make a huge difference to most people except those few at the top of the earnings ladder

With you there. What is needed is a simplification of the tax system, not making it more complicated. Although I am a supporter of progressive taxation.... but why bother tinkering with that when you still have all the horribly non-progressive taxes out there such as VAT, TV license, car tax (I know Vehicle Excise Duty) and so on.

thats the thing about taxing the rich and taxing the poor
you can tax the rich but the real world effect is that you won't raise a huge amount because the section of society is so small
you can tax the poor and you'll make huge changes because that section of society is so huge

it's a vote winner but it won't make a huge difference to most people except those few at the top or the earnings ladder

Not sure about that though, the top 1% pay almost a quarter of the total income tax collected, and the next 9% pay another 30%. See this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8417205.stm

Window tax is what we need

Not sure about that though, the top 1% pay almost a quarter of the total income tax collected, and the next 9% pay another 30%. See this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8417205.stm

The question isn't how much they pay, but how much they have relative to what they pay and to everyone else. Using absolute numbers to describe relative differences is meaningless.

Thats interesting. Imaging what it would be if they could effectively tax the high earners outside of PAYE.

I see parallels with this and the Tories promise to increase the inheritance tax limit circa 2008. An early vote winner that will have no baring on what Labour would actually do if they got into power 2015. They will make a decision based on the information they have at that time.