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  • ^^ Yes, but that all overlooks the fact that it's fucking golf.

  • Tour De France 2014 will start in Leeds with second stage finishing in London.

    General Lucifer's is starting claw training sessions now ready for the overload it's going to experience.

  • Short article on cyclingnews says two days up norf, third stage down south finishing in London.

  • Prologue isn't a stage, so you're almost right: day 1 norff TT, day 2 stage 1 norff, day 3 london stage.

  • Will there be a prologue? There isn't next year.

  • A British start without a time trial, mon dieu?!

    They should have a proper British TT as the prologue, 10 miles out and back on the A1.

  • Driver who hit Mary Bowers guilty of Careless, (but not Dangerous) driving...

    Mr Beiu, who denies one charge of dangerous driving, admitted: “I do not think I checked properly or enough. I should have looked better and this would never have happened.” Police confirmed that he had been talking on a hands-free phone before, during and shortly after the collision.

    and still not dangerous...

  • Seriously seems you can do pretty much anything in a car and get away with it: Drink Driving + Crashing + Causing a death = 4 Month suspended sentence....

    *A police officer who was found guilty of drink-driving after a crash which left his friend dead has been spared a jail sentence.

    Brendan Buggie, 39, was handed a four-month suspended jail sentence at Bradford Crown Court today after being convicted of drink-driving.

    He was cleared by a jury last month of causing Justyna Stanczak's death by careless driving.

    Buggie, who was suspended from Greater Manchester Police following the collision in December 2011, resigned from the force today.

    The former officer had drunk around six pints and was between one-and-a-half to two times over the legal limit when he ploughed his sports car into a parked van on the A56 in Ramsbottom, Greater Manchester, in appalling weather conditions.

    Miss Stanczak, 26, who was in the front seat of Buggie's Toyota Celica, died later.

    *http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1596209_greater-manchester-police-officer-given-suspended-sentence-for-drink-driving-after-crash-which-killed-justyna-stanczak-in-ramsbottom

  • Until we start treating cars as the lethal tools that they are, our roads will not be safer.

    I'm now closer that I have ever been to stopping cycling. I've never felt like that since I started, not even in the aftermath of any of the times I've been taken off myself.

    I hate this feeling. I'm (in the eyes of the law) worth less than an object. The realisation of the difference in scale between (e.g) Criminal Damage and Driving Offences is shocking and scaring me.

  • Seriously seems you can do pretty much anything in a car and get away with it: Drink Driving + Crashing + Causing a death = 4 Month suspended sentence....

    *A police officer who was found guilty of drink-driving after a crash which left his friend dead has been spared a jail sentence.

    Brendan Buggie, 39, was handed a four-month suspended jail sentence at Bradford Crown Court today after being convicted of drink-driving.

    He was cleared by a jury last month of causing Justyna Stanczak's death by careless driving.

    Buggie, who was suspended from Greater Manchester Police following the collision in December 2011, resigned from the force today.

    The former officer had drunk around six pints and was between one-and-a-half to two times over the legal limit when he ploughed his sports car into a parked van on the A56 in Ramsbottom, Greater Manchester, in appalling weather conditions.

    Miss Stanczak, 26, who was in the front seat of Buggie's Toyota Celica, died later.

    *http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1596209_greater-manchester-police-officer-given-suspended-sentence-for-drink-driving-after-crash-which-killed-justyna-stanczak-in-ramsbottom

    I am... lost for words..

  • Resigned? That police office resigned? WTF? How did he even still have a job to resign from?

  • Resigned? That police office resigned? WTF? How did he even still have a job to resign from?

    The court heard that Buggie, who had six previous speeding offences, had not intended to drive but offered Miss Stanczak a lift back to her Bury home after his ex-girlfriend's mother saw them returning to his house.

    More WTF? He had six previous speeding offenses and was still allowed to keep the job ...?

    The Judge said "...that decision to drive and your being the driver led indirectly to the collision which caused the death of Miss Stanczak."

    Surely his decision to drive led directly to her death?

    (Sorry if i'm coming over a bit daily-fail)

  • And fuckwit up there ^^ gets two years for scribbling on a painting.

    Seriously.. What the fuck is up with the justice system..

  • Driver who hit Mary Bowers guilty of Careless, (but not Dangerous) driving...

    and still not dangerous...

    tie a rothko painting to every cyclist then when it gets smashed driver gets 2 years

  • This is just so fucking ridiculous. It make no sense whatsoever and a mockery out of the justice system..

  • I.... I....I'm..

    for fuck sake...

  • Don't read this then

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20725496

    The judge, Mr Justice Saunders, told the jury: "This is a case where there are no winners. Everyone is a loser."

    Errr, there clearly was a winner, and it was not the cyclist. The guy had windows tinted to only let 17% light through, this is liiegal, he didn't look before opening the door, again this is an offence.

    WTF were the jury thinking?

  • The jury are very likely, drivers.

  • That is incredibly shit.

    Tossers with darkened car windows, scum.

  • Shit. Bad page

  • Ugh...

    I'm fairly certain he did not mean to kill anyone. I'm also fairly certain he does not feel like a "winner" for having killed someone.

    And it is terrible that someone died. More terrible than the person responsible feeling bad, of course. But the big issue is not punishment. The big issue is prevention. If you want to get your pitchforks out, join the Daily Mail comments section.

  • If the punishment for carelessness was appropriate it would reinforce the need to take care. It is in every other area of life, but for the roads. Look what happens to a rail crash, a factory accident or similar, people are pilloried for carelessness. Carelessly kill or maim a cyclist and there is no sanction, this makes cycling really unattractive.

  • My point was largely about calling the man who was responsible for the death a "winner." However, in response to your point, I don't know why someone accidentally hurting or killing me while on my bike being more severely punished than they are now would make cycling "more attractive"?

    I also doubt that more severe punishments will prevent most of these accidents. Better training? Better infrastructure? Better planning? Better and safer vehicles? Yeah, probably.

    I'm not saying the punishments should not be more severe. But it's not on the top of my "things I'd like to be better with cycling" list.

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