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So why's the cunt looking for exile in Ecuador? Just trial him for rape?

I was walking past the Ecuadorian consul this morning, loads of paps, journo's, OB etc...and loads of protestors...WTF they protesting about then??

Ecuador offered him citizenship or something during the original furore. He went back to them when the extradition appeal was successful. He suspects he wont receive a fair trial, and/or be sent to the Americans, many of whom want to electrocute him.

Because he fears that if we extradite him to Sweden, the Yanks will get him on the Wikileaks stuff. Ecuador agrees that he has reasonable grounds to fear political persecution in the US, or something...

If her weren't such a tosser, it wouldn't be so interesting.

So if I wanna do a bit of raping I'll be alright cos I can just fuck off to Ecuador??!

The world's gone mad!

No mate.

So, this Assange geezer...can someone give me a quick synopsis

He's apparently raped someone but he's escaping to another country to 'get off'??!

He is accused of two separate sexual offences in Sweden.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/17/julian-assange-sweden

The Swedish government wants to arrest him and put him on trial for the sexual offences.

Assange says the extradition case is politically motivated and Ecuadorian PM agrees.

Assnage is worried that once the trial is over, he will be extradited to the US (there is some evidence that they want him) where he will rot in jail as revenge for the embarrassment caused by Wikileaks. (see also: Bradley Manning)

It has been suggested by many people that the rape charges are false and entirely to get him to Sweden so USA can then extradite him on Wikileaks charges. I believe it is also these suggestions that are influencing the Ecuadorian decision to assist.

Depends how much you like conspiracy theories...

So if I wanna do a bit of raping I'll be alright cos I can just fuck off to Ecuador??!

But I'm assuming you don't

Unconfirmed reports coming in from the other side of the office of a 'suspect package' outside Selfridges

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Depends how much you like conspiracy theories...

It is difficult to not believe this conspiracy theory. Why would an intelligent man with so much to lose, go around raping people?

Now... back to those illuminati and reptilian zionists...

srs or sarcastic?
because no successful intelligent man is a rapist...?

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Except when it's your wedding day, eh.

It has been suggested by many people that the rape charges are false and entirely to get him to Sweden so USA can then extradite him on Wikileaks charges. I believe it is also these suggestions that are influencing the Ecuadorian decision to assist.

Depends how much you like conspiracy theories...

Or on how much you know of the history of US foreign policy. It's not a theory, the US want Assange. Whether or not the allegations are fabrications, the US has had heavy involvement from the outset.Ecuador, and South America in general, have particular experience of the hard armed approach of the US. They are under no illusions as to the likely scenarios.

However, as previously mentioned, it would easier to be more bothered by this were it not Julian Assange at the centre of it.

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It is difficult to not believe this conspiracy theory. Why would an intelligent man with so much to lose, go around raping people?

Now... back to those illuminati and reptilian zionists...

It's not quite as simple as him being accused of 'going round raping people', the rape case, from what I read of it at the time, is quite a complicated one.

It involves, as far as I can remember without reading it again because I can't be fucked, a Swedish woman during his visit there who was already a friend, and agreed to have sex with him on condition that he wore a condom. He then took it off and continued, when she found out and discussed it with another woman the next day it turned out he'd done the same with her, and they both went to the police, where they had difficulty getting their side of the story heard, as is often the case with rape victims.

I don't think he was even arguing the details of the case, but it went to trial and he got let off on some technicality or other. Either way, he came out of it very badly, as those accused of and trying lamely to argue their way out of rape cases tend to do.

[may contain some inaccuracies due to my memory, but that's the jizzt of it]

I think it's offensive to claim the accusations are politically motivated, as as far as I know they were made 'before he was cool' and not related to the Wikileaks business.

Whether the calls for a retrial are politically motivated or not is the issue I think. It's a complicated issue - if there are inaccuracies in the rape trial, obviously he should face trial again because it's a serious accusation. If it's just a cover for him to be extradited to the US, which also seems likely, then obviously that's no good either.

But it's definitely one of those cases where no-one seems innocent and everyone is getting their hands dirty in some way - apart perhaps from the [alleged] rape victims, who really shouldn't be the ones actually taking flak for this.

My recollection is that the incident occured years ago, with the allegations made recently following the furore over the leak of the US cables.

Also he's accused of raping one women, and molesting another. The rape charge was thrown out of court before an appeal which led to the extradition request.

Assange is a shady shit, despite the value of wikileaks and ignoring the dubious charges against him in Sweden - he's as grey as they come. But today he did the best thing he's done in 3 years - he raised the case of Bradley Manning who's been in detention without trial for over 800 days. His case is only slightly less frightening than some of the early detainees at Guantanamo - who aren't quite on the Ahmad Qatamesh scale, but not far off.

Indefinite detention is such a fucked up scenario.

Not the actual prospects of the 168 detainees still being held there but the implications it has.

#csb

The foreign office haven't help by threatening to revoke the diplomatic immunity from the Ecuadorian embassy. If they had turned him down it would have looked like they succumbed to bullying. I just hope they don't go through with it as it could cause all sorts of problems and set the UK's international standing back even further.

The UK government's threat to revoke, or at least suspend, the status of the Ecuadorian embassy over a nobody like Assange is posturing fuckwittery at its finest. Anyone in a British embassy in a troublespot around the world will be saying, 'Oh thanks. Thanks very much' when they're double-locking the doors tonight.

It's an interesting one though- how would you react if you were Ecuador?

Roll over and say "Ok, here he is!"?

Does make one question the motivation behind the threat.

It's an interesting one though- how would you react if you were Ecuador?

Roll over and say "Ok, here he is!"?

Does make one question the motivation behind the threat.

I certainly wouldn't have after receiving a threatening letter.

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It's not quite as simple as him being accused of 'going round raping people', the rape case, from what I read of it at the time, is quite a complicated one.

It involves, as far as I can remember without reading it again because I can't be fucked, a Swedish woman during his visit there who was already a friend, and agreed to have sex with him on condition that he wore a condom. He then took it off and continued, when she found out and discussed it with another woman the next day it turned out he'd done the same with her, and they both went to the police, where they had difficulty getting their side of the story heard, as is often the case with rape victims.

I don't think he was even arguing the details of the case, but it went to trial and he got let off on some technicality or other. Either way, he came out of it very badly, as those accused of and trying lamely to argue their way out of rape cases tend to do.

[may contain some inaccuracies due to my memory, but that's the jizzt of it]

I think it's offensive to claim the accusations are politically motivated, as as far as I know they were made 'before he was cool' and not related to the Wikileaks business.

Whether the calls for a retrial are politically motivated or not is the issue I think. It's a complicated issue - if there are inaccuracies in the rape trial, obviously he should face trial again because it's a serious accusation. If it's just a cover for him to be extradited to the US, which also seems likely, then obviously that's no good either.

But it's definitely one of those cases where no-one seems innocent and everyone is getting their hands dirty in some way - apart perhaps from the [alleged] rape victims, who really shouldn't be the ones actually taking flak for this.

My ex stopped taking the pill with out letting me know and deliberately got pregnant knowing I was not wanting children at that time. Does this constitute rape?

The threat is, to a large extent, hot air.

Here is the act they're on about:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1987/46

It needs to pass through the commons and the lords - it would go on for months. Hague couldn't force it through quickly. By which time Assange would have donned his lama costume and fucked off out the back door.

I want them to stick him in the diplomatic bag and get a particularly brawny Ecuadorian to carry him out past the police line.