Phil Woods Titanium BB - am I mad?

You trying to wind me up mate?

That's a photo of me as a child. Avatar! Bah.

Cute baby, what went wrong?

;) winky face disclaimer to show that the author meant this as a pun, and no actual offence, implied or otherwise, was intended to the recipient or any other person/s reading this post

Archi Pelago, I'm getting Object to put you on his list.

:))

GA2G, I'm not sure it works that way.

You could start a list of your own though, I can hardly stop you considering I satired the style of your lists to create mine.

According to GA2G's list
Ti = 154g & 110.00GBP
Steel = 197g & 64.95GBP

(197-154)/(110-64.95)=0.95449500554938956714761376248613g/GBP

or in my case
Campag AC-H = 300g-ish for around £12.
Gets pulled out and the cups greased every 6 months or so to stop it creaking.

Saving me between £50 and £100 to spend on things that matter.
Besides, saving grams on the BB is pointless, lighter rims, tyres and hubs will make more difference.

@Object

I thought the least you could do was go along with the big, bad bully gag.

You are the enemy of fun. And I was really making people frightened of you!

:((

I'd hope that no one's ever been frightened of me. The closest I get to scary is loud, lewd or slap happy.

You could fit the Royce and do about 25,000 miles without having to think about it.

To be honest I'd rather be on Objects list than some others going around at the moment.

It's been a long time since I've had a good slap. The missus is losing her skills in that dept. ;)

You could always try this, but I'll try to beat you to it :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=260279046953

I have a Phil BB, worse purchase I ever made. Firstly, you need a special tool to fit it. Now, this should have been a warning to me straight away - I hate proprietary shit. Not only have I just x amount on a shiny BB but now i've got to spend another £20 for the tool Secondly, the machining tolerances are quite precise, meaning if it's not fitted EXACTLY right, it bends and the bearings start to bind. So I had to send it to the U.S to get it fixed, apparently it's quite a common problem. Thirdly, mine came loose every 3 months or so, even with threadlock. I have now put a BB lockring on the left thread, hopefully it should hold.

It costs a lot more than a cheap Shimano, and yes it probably lasts longer + looks nicer but so what? No one is going to see it.

Aren't the Ti ones more likely to creak than the steel ones?

dunno, mines steel + it doesn't creak.

Heard a few stories about people buying Ti spindle pedals only to have them creak all the time - think it might be similar with BBs.

anyone running the phil BB with sugino 75 cranks?

yes, and its a gorgeous marriage

i doubt a bb spindle would break tbh

They are very light and reliable, but costs a fortune! I think the Phil BB is slightly lighter than the Royce ones...

Would say to get a Campag Record one instead which would be a lot cheaper, but, if you have the money, go for it!! :)

holy shit I still have your tool!! i am bringing it round tomorrow, sorry man!

Oh my gosh after one year! At least you didn't lose it :(

Merci!

They are very light and reliable, but costs a fortune! I think the Phil BB is slightly lighter than the Royce ones...

Would say to get a Campag Record one instead which would be a lot cheaper, but, if you have the money, go for it!! :)

What about the Sugino 75 bb? Does anyone know if they are any good? I've got phil hubs, gonna get 75's. Would a 75 BB make for a straight chainline?

Sell the BMX and get the steel Phil Wood BB and perhaps you will have spare money to buy something else shiny.

The Sugino BB would be more suitable for a track (racing) bike - for road use a sealed BB would be a better choice!

You could always try this, but I'll try to beat you to it :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=260279046953

Mental.

The Sugino BB would be more suitable for a track (racing) bike - for road use a sealed BB would be a better choice!

cheers dude. knew that this was the case, but forgot that 75's weren't sealed. i will do more research before silly questions in future!

so what happened? was it ok? i'm thinking of getting a steel one.