Why is America better then England at freedom

And all of you that mock.

Please feel free. I don't really mind if you enjoy living under the yoke, as it seems you are all quite comfortable and conditioned to believe just what you are told.

We're only mocking you because you have no grasp of things that you are talking about. The wires in your house do not constitute a faraday cage, if they did then portable radios & TVs would only work outside. AC at 440Hz is just as deadly as AC at 50 Hz, it is the current not the frequency that makes electricity dangerous to living things. I know these things to be true, not because I am "living under the yoke" but because I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, which means I spent at least one afternoon a week for three years in a lab observing this stuff for myself. No one for the government intervened to stop me for discovering the truth.

Now stop making a prat of yourself.

Now then, kids... Play nice...

If your splitting that, I'll take the women....................

We're only mocking you because you have no grasp of things that you are talking about. The wires in your house do not constitute a faraday cage, if they did then portable radios & TVs would only work outside. AC at 440Hz is just as deadly as AC at 50 Hz, it is the current not the frequency that makes electricity dangerous to living things. I know these things to be true, not because I am "living under the yoke" but because I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, which means I spent at least one afternoon a week for three years in a lab observing this stuff for myself. No one for the government intervened to stop me for discovering the truth.

Now stop making a prat of yourself.

So, take that education, and then ask your self who paid for the research that led to your books crediting Edison with many of Teslas Ideas, and also the same system that attributed radio to Marconi.These educational facts stood for more than 80 years.
Whtether or not you think your education was flawed is a different matter, I say to you, take your education, throw it out of the window and think for yourself.
Your education is as flawed as my 'delusions'.

wingedangel, I'll repeat it over and over again until you provide an link.

GIVE US THE BLOODY LINK.

Does it matter who was credited with whose ideas? It seems to me like the actual facts are more important, which willski (and almost everyone else on this thread) seems to have a better grasp of than you.

What are the facts, Seeds? Im fucking lost.

Now we know.

Oh yes...Now we know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKEUujz12S4

I just threw my education out of the window. It hit a sparrow. Now I feel bad but at least I am thinking for myself.

Your education is as flawed as my 'delusions'.

No, it's not. People who are educated in the normal educational systems of the western world invented and developed the computer you're sat in front of, the bike you ride, the controller for your central heating system (and the super-efficient condensing combi-boiler it controls, if you've got one). Scientists and physicists aren't government-controlled drones, toeing the party line and never thinking for themselves. They're sharp, clever, free-thinking people with access to loads of resources and information. In a hundred years, no-one who believes that Tesla invented free energy machines (and lots of people have believed that) has ever managed to build one. So who's knowledge and beliefs are more powerful?

What are the facts, Seeds? Im fucking lost.

I'm having trouble keeping track of them myself. I think everyone is pretty clear that there isn't a magic kick drum that shits out free electricity from nowhere.

However, still not sure whether we are all blinkered pawns of the New World Order and their fiat currency schemes.

Your education is as flawed as my 'delusions'.

coming from someone who openly admits ["I believe in Karma...I'm a strange fruit"

](https://www.lfgss.com/member7794.html)is a bit rich.

what research have you done into this area of education standards? what qualifications do you have?

I'm having trouble keeping track of them myself. I think everyone is pretty clear that there isn't a magic kick drum that shits out free electricity from nowhere.

However, still not sure whether we are all blinkered pawns of the New World Order and their fiat currency schemes.

i think we can all be clear on one thing: wingedangel has been sent here to test our loyalty to the system, and by the looks of it, we are passing the test.

I'm having trouble keeping track of them myself. I think everyone is pretty clear that there isn't a magic kick drum that shits out free electricity from nowhere.

However, still not sure whether we are all blinkered pawns of the New World Order and their fiat currency schemes.

mmm... might have prawns for dinner.

My flatmate is bringing birthday party leftovers home with her, so I don't have to think about dinner. Result.

Prawns sound nice though.

wingedangel, I'll repeat it over and over again until you provide an link.

GIVE US THE BLOODY LINK.

Repeat ad nauseum.

And as Tynan said earlier thats just how it is.

If all of you are content to believe that a system of government, steered by a capitlist manifesto wouldn't want you to consume endlessly, and wouldn't ever lie to you? Tthen please completely ignore the ramblings of this idiot.
You are obviously aware of the 'facts' that our totally infallible and patently honest government provides, and belive them to be true.
Regardless of free energy that is what the crux of this discussion was about, would the goverment lie to you.
And they do, all the time, about everything.
Any one with a brain that was in use would tell you the same.

Now, explain freedom to me again? Is that to be fully aware of all the information? that which is considered erroneous and that considered by the media to be the 'truth'

I would have though it far harder to ruffle the feathers of such a free thinking souls...wow.

please completely ignore the ramblings of this idiot.

noted

Regardless of free energy that is what the crux of this discussion was about, would the goverment lie to you.

the interesting thing is, you have misinterpreted tesla's claims to free energy. he didn't claim to invent a machine that could create energy from nothing. he claimed to invent a machine that could capture solar and cosmic radiation and convert it to electrical energy. and it didn't work.

Thermodynamics may be god but Kinetics is King.

god > king no?

unless you're talking about jesus in which god = king

Yeah, but I was going for the alliteration. My point is that although some things are thermodynamically favourable (like turning water into hydrogen and oxygen) they wont just spontaneously transform unless the activation energy for the reaction is exceeded.

I'm not really saying it's more important. I'm saying that it is almost as, or just as, important.

repped.
i like this.

Repeat ad nauseum.

And as Tynan said earlier thats just how it is.

If all of you are content to believe that a system of government, steered by a capitlist manifesto wouldn't want you to consume endlessly, and wouldn't ever lie to you? Tthen please completely ignore the ramblings of this idiot.
You are obviously aware of the 'facts' that our totally infallible and patently honest government provides, and belive them to be true.
Regardless of free energy that is what the crux of this discussion was about, would the goverment lie to you.
And they do, all the time, about everything.
Any one with a brain that was in use would tell you the same.

Now, explain freedom to me again? Is that to be fully aware of all the information? that which is considered erroneous and that considered by the media to be the 'truth'

I would have though it far harder to ruffle the feathers of such a free thinking souls...wow.

Fuck's sake... I've been trying to argue in a polite and reasonable way about this, but you're not actually responding to anything anyone says. It's like punching away at a sack of potatoes. I'm off to play Tummy Ache with my kids.

Wingedangel fancies Lady Ga Ga anyway so with this in mind I can no longer trust or believe a word he says

I'm going to have to disagree with you here Oliver. Wingedangel completely missed my hilarious alternating current vs. direct current joke earlier in the thus proving he is a fool.

I missed it, too, but if it required knowledge of engineering, I hope I may be excused. :)

Again, have to disagree about the neglect. Tesla is extremely well known. He shaped the transmission of electricity. Wikipedia Current Wars and see the pros/cons of alternating versus direct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents

Just shows how much I know. I had genuinely never heard of him before.

It seems to me as if he had a lot of success but tried to do even more than this success. He then couldn't fully follow through. Given that he succumbed to mental illness and his papers appear to have been spirited away by the US government, there's certainly ample room for wonderful conspiracy theories.

Wingedangel fancies Lady Ga Ga anyway so with this in mind I can no longer trust or believe a word he says

I just puked as an image flashed through my mind of them getting it on......

He's got tickets for her O2 gig

^That you had never heard of Tesla really should go in the I Confess thread Oliver. I am shocked. Well, more disappointed really. Upset. I feel deflated. Somehow betrayed. I will have to learn to live with it though. Life goes on. Unfortunately it does go on, and on, and on.

the interesting thing is, you have misinterpreted tesla's claims to free energy. he didn't claim to invent a machine that could create energy from nothing. he claimed to invent a machine that could capture solar and cosmic radiation and convert it to electrical energy. and it didn't work.

I'm not sure if it's worth pointing out that the ambiguity of the word 'free' in English is a frequent cause of confusion. I don't know which language Tesla used when outlining his claims, but I doubt very much that his primary intended meaning was 'free' as in money. The German link I posted earlier uses "frei" as in 'non-captured', but I suppose this may in itself have been translated from English. Sorry, this is a very simple-minded point.

I'm sure that Wingedangel didn't mean that she thinks he could create energy from nothing, though.