Useless degrees

Fora?

lol

Chambers capitalises 'Nazi' -for future reference.

Chambers capitalises 'Nazi' -for future reference.

But lowercase 'nazi' is preferred for those who merely behave like Nazis (members of the National Socialist Party), is it not?

Capital P. And I didn't even have to look that up.

Can you sort that white out round your avatar, Will? It's really bugging me.

Get a life you loft-living Latin-lisping loser.

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By the way, the very idea of 'useless' degrees panders to a utilitarian concept of education that just increases the emphasis put on wholly economic definitions of value. And I don't just say this as someone whose first degree was in Classics :(

At the risk of coming across as a complete cock I think your degree matters less than your drive. My own experience is:

1) Graduated from Sheffield Uni with a 2:1 in English Lit in 1993. Took the degree course because that was what I was 'good' at at school. I finished it completely disillusioned with the subject. I had to attend 3 hours of tuition a week and was told at the beginning of the course that lectures were optional. I spent 3 years taking e's and eating sardines. I had no real drive to do it other than to get a degree. I had some great nights off my tits.

2) Did a PGCE after that as I had no idea what to do and it was what my girlfriend was doing. I hated teaching and was too immature to pursue it as a career. Again I had no real drive to do it other than to get a vocational qualification. I hated the job - too immature and no real application.

3) After teaching English Lit for a short time I decided I needed a change. I had no idea how to even turn a computer on so financed myself through an Msc in Manufacturing and Management Information Systems. Hard work, but landed the job I have been doing ever since. I'm a contractor and estimate I work on the job that allows me to live for about 7 months of the year - the other 5 months I do the things that really interest me. I like the lifestyle more than the work itself.

Was it all worth it? I have no idea.. I had a great time pissing around doing the Eng Lit degree but could have learnt as much by myself I think. I also have friends who were driven (usually to work in the media / creative arts) who now hate what they are doing.

Sorry for the essay - I guess my conclusion is you can always change what you are doing if you think it will make you happy and you want it enough.

I've got a usless degree:
3rd class MBioch.
Oh yeah.
1% off a Desmond.
and technically I attained a Vorderman.

^^ Can I have an E please Bob?

Gah - wrong programme. Stupid wasted student time.

If not preferred, then surely acceptable. My Shorter Oxford is happy with either.

get a life you loft-living latin-lisping loser.

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Well, actually, Nigel since you started it: I've always taken exception to your avatar. Why you would choose one that clearly celebrates the activities of the Israeli army, parachuting in to a defenceless Palestinian refugee camp to bring death and misery to an oppressed people is beyond me. You're entitled, I suppose, to your rabid Zionist views but must you declare them in this grotesque way every time you post one of your otherwise apparently sane and well thought out contributions. Well?

Well, actually, Nigel since you started it: I've always taken exception to your avatar. Why you would choose one that clearly celebrates the activities of the Israeli army, parachuting in to a defenceless Palestinian refugee camp to bring death and misery to an oppressed people is beyond me. You're entitled, I suppose, to your rabid Zionist views but must you declare them in this grotesque way every time you post one of your otherwise apparently sane and well thought out contributions. Well?

There, you've said it.
We've all been wanting to say something ever since he first appeared.
...possibly...

Well, actually, Nigel since you started it: I've always taken exception to your avatar. Why you would choose one that clearly celebrates the activities of the Israeli army, parachuting in to a defenceless Palestinian refugee camp to bring death and misery to an oppressed people is beyond me. You're entitled, I suppose, to your rabid Zionist views but must you declare them in this grotesque way every time you post one of your otherwise apparently sane and well thought out contributions. Well?

B-b-but! It's a five-pointed star, symbol of the Ottoman empire, not a six-pointed star of David. It symbolises me parachuting myself onto a comfortable ottoman.

I would argue that, due to the state of higher education in this country, it is harder to find a useful degree than a useless one. Even the supposedly good ones from supposedly good universities are marred horrifically by poor teaching/funding, or even a simple lack of understanding of the subject in question (or questionable subject).

Chris woodhead is right. HE is not for everybody. It is, for the most part, a waste of time which creates a huge amount of debt for the country, while simultaneously preventing people from then getting a job.

Fuck university, unless you actually want to study something. Sorry melon, but your reason to go to university is/was shit. You should never have said yes, if you wanted to get a job at the end.

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Nice try. And the word ZYonistGO means nothing to you does it? Mm, Mm?

I would argue that, due to the state of higher education in this country, it is harder to find a useful degree than a useless one. Even the supposedly good ones from supposedly good universities are marred horrifically by poor teaching/funding, or even a simple lack of understanding of the subject in question (or questionable subject).

Chris woodhead is right. HE is not for everybody. It is, for the most part, a waste of time which creates a huge amount of debt for the country, while simultaneously preventing people from then getting a job.

Fuck university, unless you actually want to study something. Sorry melon, but your reason to go to university is/was shit. You should never have said yes, if you wanted to get a job at the end.

If you think education should just be about getting you a job, then yes…

I would argue that, due to the state of higher education in this country, it is harder to find a useful degree than a useless one. Even the supposedly good ones from supposedly good universities are marred horrifically by poor teaching/funding, or even a simple lack of understanding of the subject in question (or questionable subject).

Chris woodhead is right. HE is not for everybody. It is, for the most part, a waste of time which creates a huge amount of debt for the country, while simultaneously preventing people from then getting a job.

Fuck university, unless you actually want to study something. Sorry melon, but your reason to go to university is/was shit. You should never have said yes, if you wanted to get a job at the end.

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J:You really should read Thomas Bernhard :)

J:You really should read Thomas Bernhard :)

Oh, alright :)

Chris woodhead is right. HE is not for everybody. It is, for the most part, a waste of time which creates a huge amount of debt for the country, while simultaneously preventing people from then getting a job.

Yes, well, Chris Woodhead thinks that HE is for middle-class people because they are cleverer than the plebs and that this is because they have 'better genes'.

He is a knob.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/may/11/education-policy-class-bias

Oh, alright :)

I wouldn't. It's not exactly PG Wodehouse:

*"His work is most influenced by the feeling of being abandoned (in his childhood and youth) and by his incurable illness, which caused him to see death as the ultimate essence of existence. *

"His work typically features loners' monologues explaining, to a rather silent listener, his views on the state of the world, often with reference to a concrete situation. This is true for his plays as well as for his prose, where the monologues are then reported second-hand by the listener."

Yes, well, Chris Woodhead thinks that HE is for middle-class people because they are cleverer than the plebs and that this is because they have 'better genes'.

He is a knob.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/may/11/education-policy-class-bias

I like the cut of your jib...