Guitar Setup Advice (yes its misc & meaningless)

It did sound amazing, I developed fingertip callouses like Iommi's thimbles. I took me a while to find plain 24 guage g strings, easy nowadays.

guitar action is determined by three things:

nut height.

Have you played one, there is no Gibson ever made which is better than PRS. Most people are just in love with the romantic ideal of owning a '58 Les Paul but in reality Vintage guitars were often poorly made using whatever bits and bobs were lying around the factory at the time...acoustics are an entirely different ballgame but with electric guitars PRS really are as good as you can get.

Yeah, I have... Long before they became the *emo *guitar of choice too... I'll take my '58 Junior thanks, which is the most beautifully crafted and staggering sounding guitar I've ever owned...

I don't suppose anybody has a Fender Strat they want rid of? Either that or I buy a MIM one for the time being.

As youve resurrected this old thread I may as well mention that

My guitar which was the subject of this thread is now fully sorted & for sale.

Schecter C1, floyd rose model in silver colour.

Can imagine its not peoples cuppa tea here, bought it in my foolish youth!

As youve resurrected this old thread I may as well mention that

My guitar which was the subject of this thread is now fully sorted & for sale.

Schecter C1, floyd rose model in silver colour.

Can imagine its not peoples cuppa tea here, bought it in my foolish youth!

Cracking guitar actually, wouldn't mind having one at all but I really don't need anymore guitars at the moment...really... ;)

apologies in advance for this but:

[HUGE RANT}i really hate PRS's.

sorry man. nothing personal, honest, but i had to let this rant out!

i'm sure they're very well made and that (and yes i've even played a few) but to me they are absolutely baby-boomer dentists' guitars. they are the £5k carbon road bike of the guitar world. i can't think of anyone i like who plays one, and i can name you a lot of people i think are utterly utterly god-fucking-awful who do. it's not that i'm inherantly prejudiced... okay i am inherantly prejudiced, but still the facts seem to back me up there.

and claiming they're good enough for carlos? good as he briefly once was, to my ears he's always had pretty bad honky nasal tone (whatever he's playing). and he stopped being any good at all a long long time ago. probably around the time, when was it? oh yeah, around teh time he started using PRS's. also (coincidence) around the time his tone went from being idiosyncratic and recognisable to completely fucking hornet in a matchbox "diddly-diddly-diddly-diddly-wheeeee!" terrble. maybe he started sucking before he picked up a PRS but he's undoubtedly sucked horribly the entire he's had one in his hairy-knuckled hands. he does make some excellent faces though.

To my eyes they're just the worst combination of bland, flashy, tasteless and boring. they're got no personality or identity in either looks or sound. The shape is horrible generic and derivative, the ridiculously figured tops and vile colours showy, tacky and tasteless (as are the bird inlays).I can identify the tone of a strat, tele, 335, les paul and a lot of times at least the family of amp though which it was played on most recordings. but i defy ANYONE to hear a recording of a PRS in a song and identify it as such. unless it's a santana, nickelback, linkin' park or dave navarro solo record (see!? see!? LOOK at that list!): http://www.prsguitars.com/artists/

i really don't judge anyone for wanting one or playing one. really honestly really i don't. well... let's just say i don't judge their character or worth as a person or anything of that kind. but if i'm brutally honest i think if someone tells me they love PRS's i think i do make certain assumptions about their tastes and influences in the musical equipment area and then extrapoloate that into the musical world in general (is this wrong?) and those judgements would tend to lead me towards the conclusion that anyone who owns a PRS is likely to have very different tastes in music to me. Beyond that even i imagine that they might also have very different ideas about what it is that makes music good/bad/whatever.

Now i look like a total guitar snob but i'm honestly not. Well maybe i'm an inverted guitar snob. i really think that to a large extent what gear you use doesn't matter. I'll really use whatever. i like what i like but i'm really no snob about cheap/expensive/japanese/american/uk boutique or mass produced. I've tried lots of things over the years. i've got vintage stuff, new stuff, cheap stuff and some really nice bits. i use all of it and if i find i've no use for something anymore i sell it or give it away.

oh i don't know. i just hate them okay?! they just remind of horrible music played by horrible musos and horrible tasteless americans in horrible advets in horrible guitar magazines. that and rich middle aged guys who buy them to go with their Matchless amp, B&O stereo and Smeg fridge. just the power of association i guess.

and while i'm at it that tele is hideous! what's the point in an otherwise classic looking tele with two hideous plastic covered (active?) humbuckers, naff looking black plastic knobs and revolting chunky black tuners and pegs? It looks like '52 chevvy with blacked out windows, fake exhaust, plastic spoiler and a max power sticker.

[HUGE RANT/]

Well I do think it's fair to say that most PRS playing musicians aren't all that well known...you seem to think it's just Nickelback though...

I'm also going to assume you've never heard of the following musicians and I strongly recommend you check them out:

Al DiMeola
Alex Lifeson
Al Schnier
Johnny Hiland
Mark Tremonti (His stuff not that Creed shite)
Wes Borland (Likewise not Limp Bizkit)
Ray Davies(Yes Ray Davies)
Gary Grainger
Joey Belladonna

Also I think your extrapolation on my musical existence is probably more than a million miles off kilter if you're basing it on Nickelback... I'm not even going to go into what I like but I've played Double Bass for 8 years, I was in National Youth Orchestra of Ireland from the age of 12 having played Double Bass for a year and the first piece I played with them was Tschaikovsky's Sixth Symphony (which is pretty fucked up for a 12-13 year old, check it out!) I have played guitar for the same length of time and spent a summer at Berklee college of music where, but for my shite school grades, I was informed I'd have no problem getting in and possibly getting a scholarship... So really I think the fact that I own 4 PRS guitars doesn't mean I'm some Nickelback loving Emo-kid (Oxymoron...)

Now that I've finished my rant and I sound like the most egotistic wanker on the face of the earth I will bid you good day sir ;)

Being a good musician and liking - or playing - good music are two totally different things.

I've bought one of these for my nephew's Christmas present. Anyone tried them?
http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/amps/voxampplugs.php

How did the lil' amp turn out Platini?

I bought myself a Christmas present:
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=03121113331518

Can't fookin' wait.

Also this looks like a bargain:
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=08052316320338

SG standard FTW. I like being able to get my whole hand round the neck on the bottom frets.

Well I do think it's fair to say that most PRS playing musicians aren't all that well known...you seem to think it's just Nickelback though...

I'm also going to assume you've never heard of the following musicians and I strongly recommend you check them out:

Al DiMeola
Alex Lifeson
Al Schnier
Johnny Hiland
Mark Tremonti (His stuff not that Creed shite)
Wes Borland (Likewise not Limp Bizkit)
Ray Davies(Yes Ray Davies)
Gary Grainger
Joey Belladonna

Also I think your extrapolation on my musical existence is probably more than a million miles off kilter if you're basing it on Nickelback... I'm not even going to go into what I like but I've played Double Bass for 8 years, I was in National Youth Orchestra of Ireland from the age of 12 having played Double Bass for a year and the first piece I played with them was Tschaikovsky's Sixth Symphony (which is pretty fucked up for a 12-13 year old, check it out!) I have played guitar for the same length of time and spent a summer at Berklee college of music where, but for my shite school grades, I was informed I'd have no problem getting in and possibly getting a scholarship... So really I think the fact that I own 4 PRS guitars doesn't mean I'm some Nickelback loving Emo-kid (Oxymoron...)

Now that I've finished my rant and I sound like the most egotistic wanker on the face of the earth I will bid you good day sir ;)

not at all. glad you replied to the rant actually. i recently remembered that i'd posted it and felt a little guilty for going off on one in your general direction.

having said that, your list of PRS players, with the notable exception of ray davies, posted in defence of the kind of musicians who play PRS guitars, absolutely cements my earlier suspicion that we have very very diferent tastes in music and criterion upon which we judge music good or bad. and to that i raise my rapidly warming can of heineken and say "vive la diference"!

seriously, we're obviously coming from very different musical, aesthetic and cultural areas on this one so i think we should just agree to to disagree. i'm just sorry i went so daftly overboard it. really nothing personal.

back to yr list now. regarding ray davies, i don't count once great artists and musicians who have long since lost it and now play goofy guitars as proof of said guitar's provenance. for example: steve cropper now has a goatee, beer gut, bald pate, ponytail, extensive collection of shiny hawaiian shirts and now plays peavey (PRS wannbe) guitars. is steve cropper still cool? oh god no. are peavey guitars cool? definitely not. was steve cropper once the walking, talking, songwriting, producing, racial-integration-pioneer, funk chopping ("play it steve!"), dock of the bay tinkling, sharp-suited, manly-bearded, vital heartbeat of stax, all round soul man and general personification of the coolest, most tasteful and creatively minimal guitar player ever to stalk god's green onions earth? i believe he was. all of that (undertaken with a tele or esquire in his hand btw) does not mean that the lame peavey guitars he plays now are are cool. i love the man and hugely respect his life's work (ditto ray davies) but steve (and ray), your guitar's lame!

hehe. i know i'm a purist and an anti-snob. i'm cool with it.

damn. i've ranted again.

sorry man

did someone say they wanted to buy a strat? i have an early 90s standard (mexican) sunburst/maple jobby gathering dust under my bed. i suppose it should have sentimenal value as the first proper guitar i ever bought but as i've not played it in years it really ought to go to someone who's going to get some real use out of it. £150? it's a bit scuffed and dinged and has some "patina" (rust) on the bridge but all in good working order... well it will be when i string it up and give it the once over. i'll throw in a semi-hard (cloth covered polystyrene) case too.

No advice here, was just looking to post a pic of my guitar up.

'Cept mines is a nice shade of green.

Bought this as my first guitar, terrible, but I don't care because it looks fecking awesome/shite (depending on your viewpoint of 80's hair metal I guess)

Thanks for letting me waste your time.

are you trying wind me up?

are you trying wind me up?

To be fair, Steinbergers are lovely guitars, the flying v, well yeah that's just ridiculously over the top, but still, the Steinberger is fantastic.

okay. it wasn't the v i was talking about. that at least has nigel tuffnel points. this vive la diferance thing has it's limits you know.

and yes i have heard of alan holdsworth. and UB40.

oh dear. i think i'd better take my guitar snobbery back to the telecaster discussion forum. oh yes.

that or invite you all to point and laugh at my bike.

goes off to play at home studios again

p.s. you can never have too many exhaust pipes on a guitar

I always thought Tuffnel was based on Eddie a bit, but now you've made me want to watch Spinal Tap, and I didn't bring it with me over the holidays, ack feck.

How did the lil' amp turn out Platini?

It's not quite what I expected in that it only works through headphones, but the sound is great - I'd recommend it, especially as you can find them on the web for around £26, rather than the High Street £35 that I paid....

@dooks, love the Cropper rant. with you on that one.

Oh dear... I wonder what people expect me to be like?? Well here's a pic for you

...

(Disclaimer:That is NOT actually me...)

How did the lil' amp turn out Platini?

I bought myself a Christmas present:
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=03121113331518

Can't fookin' wait.
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my mate has that guitar, 's pretty nice..

Got it yesterday. Very pretty and sounds sweet.

I have a black early nineties bc rich bich I wanna sort out...it's incredibly fucked