LFGSS 2008 family photo

Ha! No offence but I'd love to see that happen. I've been turfed off T-Square just for carrying a digital SLR

There is no public land in the UK where you are forbidden from taking photographs or video - in Trafalgar Square and Parliament Sqaure (and - although not technically 'public land' - the royal parks) you can shoot to your hearts content if it is not commercial work.

Next time refuse to move and if security attempt to remove you (physically) threaten him with arrest for assault. (then kick his head in)

not to mention a large gathering of people could technically constitute a demonstration (progressing quickly to 'riot').

Good point being inside the 1k exclusion zone.

There is no public land in the UK where you are forbidden from taking photographs or video - in Trafalgar Square and Parliament Sqaure (and - although not technically 'public land' - the royal parks) you can shoot to your hearts content if it is not commercial work.

Next time refuse to move and if security attempt to remove you (physically) threaten him with arrest for assault. (then kick his head in)

Good point being inside the 1k exclusion zone.

Some useful links first:

http://www.sirimo.co.uk/ukpr.php (PDF on photographers' rights)
http://www.london.gov.uk/trafalgarsquare/manage/guidelines_filming.jsp (seems to be the root of the security guards' misunderstanding of the issue)

At the time I didn't have a clue what my rights were - and I'm sure most people know what the security guards (or whatever they're called now - public liaison officers or something) can be like, so I carried on wandering around (putting on my biggest f-off lens just to make a point), but whenever I went to take a shot, the guard would stand in frame. After a few minutes of this I got totally pissed off and asked what the (fecking) problem was. "Apparently" Trafalgar Square is private property, and I was obviously a commercial photographer, since I had a big lens, therefore would I kindly piss off.

In hindsight I'd love to have been a one-man protest, but I was a bit too naiive and trusting at the time for that.

I've had it all - I've been moved on at City Hall and various other places for the same reasons, in spite of the fact that at City Hall, a couple of metres away there was a guy with a Leica M7 happily snapping away.

Some useful links first:

http://www.sirimo.co.uk/ukpr.php (PDF on photographers' rights)
http://www.london.gov.uk/trafalgarsquare/manage/guidelines_filming.jsp (seems to be the root of the security guards' misunderstanding of the issue)

At the time I didn't have a clue what my rights were - and I'm sure most people know what the security guards (or whatever they're called now - public liaison officers or something) can be like, so I carried on wandering around (putting on my biggest f-off lens just to make a point), but whenever I went to take a shot, the guard would stand in frame. After a few minutes of this I got totally pissed off and asked what the (fecking) problem was. "Apparently" Trafalgar Square is private property, and I was obviously a commercial photographer, since I had a big lens, therefore would I kindly piss off.

In hindsight I'd love to have been a one-man protest, but I was a bit too naiive and trusting at the time for that.

I've had it all - I've been moved on at City Hall and various other places for the same reasons, in spite of the fact that at City Hall, a couple of metres away there was a guy with a Leica M7 happily snapping away.

Yeah ! They can be total pricks, and often are clueless as to the law.

What you do is choose what you want to photograph in Trafalagar square, point you camera in the opposite direction, wait for rent-a-prick to position himself in frame, then swing around 180° and take your shot.

Check out these clueless PCSO idiots:

[ame="http://current.com/items/88856223_you_can_t_picture_this"]You Can't Picture This // Current[/ame]

I like Current TV. I saw that ^^^ and thought of you lot.. snappy snappy..

we got a pro photographer here, I wonder if he's avaiable to take a decent snap of the whole gangs?

I can actually used a Holga as a panoramic camera simply by carefully advancing the film to make it fit evenly.

Nice, I can bring my Diana! =- Which is a camera and not my ladyboy lover.

But a group photo up the banking at HH would be pretty cool.

yes very cool, but not a very accurate representation of the new breed of fixed wheel riders in London (excepting the guys who do ride track of course)...it would sort of be "like" pretending.....

photos of you in a real race on the track...that would be "way" kewell!

Should we all wear our newly purchaced LFGSS tshirts?

awww no fair, i wanna be in on this!!!

But a group photo up the banking at HH would be pretty cool.

yes very cool, but not a very accurate representation of the new breed of fixed wheel riders in London (excepting the guys who do ride track of course)...it would sort of be "like" pretending.....

photos of you in a real race on the track...that would be "way" kewell!

Aw, I wanted to scrawl "FGSS WOZ ERE" up the banking with fluro spraypaint too.
Maybe we can find a piss-reeking, rubbish-strewn grim-death alley replete with bike-thieving crack-warriors instead.
Be more appropriate?

Oh, Brick Lane.

Yeah ! They can be total pricks, and often are clueless as to the law.

What you do is choose what you want to photograph in Trafalagar square, point you camera in the opposite direction, wait for rent-a-prick to position himself in frame, then swing around 180° and take your shot.

Check out these clueless PCSO idiots:

http://current.com/items/88856223_you_can_t_picture_this

Just watching that gets my back up! I have been stopped in nearly all london train stations. and South Bank (the dark gray tiles mark the private land) both private property so no arguments. but more recently i have been asked to leave the road in front of big financial buildings by security guards due to the fact the companies are American and its against the law to photograph their property!? there’s an incentive if you were missing one!

Try Bond Street, all the suited shop security guards with ear pieces go nuts.
Go on...

were you photgraphing the front of lehman brother's?

I was pulled into a room and forced to delete photos I took of the roof at Stanstead aeroport. Fair enough, in retrospect!

I was pulled into a room and forced to delete photos I took of the roof at Stanstead aeroport. Fair enough, in retrospect!

It is illegal to ask you to delete photos, a policeman would need a court order (and he would have to convince the court there is good reason) to be able to destroy your property.

Just watching that gets my back up! I have been stopped in nearly all london train stations. and South Bank (the dark gray tiles mark the private land) both private property so no arguments.

. . . but you can take photos of private land/buildings if you are stood on public land.

but more recently i have been asked to leave the road in front of big financial buildings by security guards due to the fact the companies are American and its against the law to photograph their property!? there’s an incentive if you were missing one!

As I am sure you know, it is not against the law to photograph private property from public land - the security guards are misinformed with regard to the law.

It is illegal to ask you to delete photos, a policeman would need a court order (and he would have to convince the court there is good reason) to be able to destroy your property.

delete them and keep them happy (delete them in the camera but don't reformat the card)
then just undelete them using drive rescue or rescue pro. you will probably find loads of really old images on there that you thought were long gone.

delete them and keep them happy (delete them in the camera but don't reformat the card)
then just undelete them using drive rescue or rescue pro. you will probably find loads of really old images on there that you thought were long gone.

Good technique (and likely to work) - but my point is that there really is no need to delete photographs when asked by a policeman any more than you need to stop laughing if asked by a policeman.

It will not be long (stuff is already for sale at the low end/non-pro end of the market) before cameras takes photos and (via the magic of wi-fi to local hub/receiver then local receiver to internet) instantly upload them to (insert internet/computer destination of your choice here).

So you shoot, not to a CF/SD/HDD/Tape but (indirectly) to your hard drive at home or your flickr account or some other location you have entered into your camera.

This would mean that it would be impractical for law enforcement officers to continue to illegally ask people to delete photos.

If you are asked to delete photos - ask the officer to phone his station and get the section number and law under which he is attempting to do this (this is your right) he will be told that he is mistaken and he has no right to attempt to destroy your property.

yes! i'm heading out to snap some rozzers than tell them where they can stick their deletion requests!

yes! i'm heading out to snap some rozzers than tell them where they can stick their deletion requests!

Go get 'em baby !

Another - often used - reason for being asked to delete photographs, especially at demonstrations, is the spurious claim that it is illegal to photograph law enforcement officers - again this is nonsense and can safely (within the law) be ignored.

We would be royally fucked if police could carry out their work cloaked in secrecy.

you can stitch really easily in photoshop CS3 file>automate>photomerge. It's very powerful.

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is that Cregennen lakes in North Wales ? ?