Belt drive fixed

im not convinced by hub brakes, they dont stop as well and they are heavy.i don't see maintenance as a valid argument as i really dont find it that taxing to turn a cable adjuster or centering screw. cleaning is somthing you should do occasionally anyway, i dont like people who dont look after their possessions.

While we obsessed with bicycles, there are people who simply want a bicycle just as a transport for transport's sake (and I don't mean full-on nodder action), look at bike like those dutch bike that are entirely maintenance-free, the chain is covered, drum brakes, thick heavy tyres, strong as a bull etc. seeing people on bicycle in Amsterdam made me realised that they didn't ride it for fun, or because they're an eco-warrior, but simply as a mean of getting around town.

I think it's a bit unfair to dislike people who don't look after certain possession, yes I do agree a little maintenance does go a long way, but there are some tools that you shouldn't need to worry about looking after, and that is entirely possible with a bicycle.

we only choose the bike that required a bit of maintenance because we enjoy that particular bicycle (road bicycle for instance), instead of just using it to get from A to B.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/globe-san-francisco-2-2009-road-bike-ec016927

As far as a commuter goes I think this is perfect (a belt drive option would be sick though). My sister just got one for £320!! I'm getting a shot next week.

£320! that's pretty good, would've been better if the wheel's a 700c/29er.

Yeh, but I think half it's appeal is it's low standover. It looks sick though, is pretty much full shimano (appart from cranks) and I bet it handles pretty fast with those forks and short stem.

I'll report back

Rather ride singlespeed uphill. Easier, I don't have to worry about what gear to mis-choose.

...this is a joke right?

Please tell me this is a joke.

Oh he's serious all right.

can't wait for my Nexus 8 speed hubs to arrived, definitely will be a lots better than the dérailleur I have right now.

Smallfurry, I'll let you know how the Nexus brake perform under heavy load (main use of my Globe Haul).

yes its true the maintenance free thing is popular in the dutch-land, but as you say their bikes arnt that important to them, and they arnt putting them together from choice parts. i cant see why anyone who was building their own bike would choose one. who wants inferior braking and slower rolling wheels?

nah it fucks me off that people are so wasteful and don't appreciate their possessions. take a trip to a rubbish dump to see how fucking awful society is.

it only have inferior braking because of the slighty longer braking distance, which frankly, no different to the braking distance of a fixed wheel bicycle (without front brake).

Belt drive on a fixed?

Surely it would stretch!

Such a bloody stupid idea!!!

^ Don t say that, I ordered a Schindelhauer and you will bring me bad luck. Plus belts are used successfully with motors much more powerful than legs, or my legs at least, so I remain confident.

jlinln, he was having a bubblebath.

But surely they'll snap, they're just like rubber bands right?!

Won't someone think of the children!!!

That s me being to literal - the bike looks so great, I want it to be as good as it seems... Ed, there was a guy looking very much like your avatar in Tokyo fixed gear a few hours ago.

That because it also happen to be me.

Makes be better at seeing people in shops than finding the right bars for my bike then! I came out empty-handed... But on topic, I should receive the Schindelhauer in March, so I ll know then.

So who's got a belt then? Huh?

I think I'm going to go for it now.

I've worked out I need a 55t beltring and a 20t sprocket. The sprocket will have to be the Phil Wood one because the Gates one for Rohloff is only 19t and I want to keep the same belt and be able to run single-speed on it.

I also think I need the 118 length belt.

But more importantly... where do you order the bits from? I seem to only be able to find listings of those that build bikes pre-fitted rather than details for a supplier who will sell the individual components and let you retro-fit your own (well, the frame was built for it, but I started with chain because of the lack of a 20t Rohloff sprocket).

Maybe those lovely people at Fixie Inc would order it on my behalf... seems a bit cheeky, but you never know.

£320! that's pretty good, would've been better if the wheel's a 700c/29er.

Why?

Maybe those lovely people at Fixie Inc would order it on my behalf... seems a bit cheeky, but you never know.

go for it!

Ahhh, V-boy, I was just wondering when you were going to jump for this one... I was on the rolhoff website this very morning looking to see if they do belts... not yet, it would seem.

Best of luck anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing this on a ride somewhere... or out at wests...

So who's got a belt then? Huh?

I think I'm going to go for it now.

I've worked out I need a 55t beltring and a 20t sprocket. The sprocket will have to be the Phil Wood one because the Gates one for Rohloff is only 19t and I want to keep the same belt and be able to run single-speed on it.

I also think I need the 118 length belt.

But more importantly... where do you order the bits from? I seem to only be able to find listings of those that build bikes pre-fitted rather than details for a supplier who will sell the individual components and let you retro-fit your own (well, the frame was built for it, but I started with chain because of the lack of a 20t Rohloff sprocket).

Have you used this? http://www.carbondrivesystems.com/images/uploads/forbikemaker_1253100220.xls
I cant see why you'd need to go for the Phil TBH.

This is the european distributor for gates. I havent had any contact with them yet. I was thinking of ordering a 24t alfine sprocket at some point.
http://www.g-boxx.com/e-carbondrive.html

I found it very easy to set-up. The belt is lateraly very stiff, so dialing in the chainline is just a case letting the belt show where it wants to be.

im confused about what hubs i can use for the gates sprokets. ive read stuff but i just find all the numbers confusing.

can anyone elaborate?

I cant see why you'd need to go for the Phil TBH.

Because the Gates sprocket for Rohloff is 19t.

Yet the smallest Gates sprocket for single-speed is 20t.

So if I want to use the same belt and front beltring for both Rohloff and single-speed, I''d be screwed as I don't have that much space in my drops to tension a difference of 1t and I would like to keep the Rohloff direct drive gear (#11) to the same as my single-speed gear (approx 74.5 gear inches).

So... I need both a 20t Rohloff sprocket and a 20t single-speed sprocket to allow for the swapping of wheels without swapping anything else.

Phil Wood do the Rohloff sprocket as a 20t one, which means that if I go for the Phil sprocket I can run 55/20 and get the same GI on both the Rohloff direct drive as the single-speed.

All make sense?

im confused about what hubs i can use for the gates sprokets. ive read stuff but i just find all the numbers confusing.

can anyone elaborate?

Shimano compatible 9-spline for single-speed. 130BCD for front beltring.

Details here: http://www.carbondrivesystems.com/forbikemakers.php?lang=us

I don't have that much space in my drops to tension a difference of 1t and I would like to keep the Rohloff direct drive gear (#11) to the same as my single-speed gear (approx 74.5 gear inches).
All make sense?

Does now ;)

I was under the impression the Rohloff sprocket (via a threaded carrier ring) came in 19, 20, 22, and 24 teeth versions. If you look at the Gates/Rohloff instructions below (page 23) they are listed.

http://www.g-boxx.com/pdf/Gates-Rohloff-manual-en.pdf