Sarah Palin

I find it hard to adopt the label 'atheist', ...I think calling myself anti-theist, maybe more honest.

I'm not anti-god, I just believe there isn't one. As I said, for some people the 'god' construct helps them get through the day. I don't have a problem with that. Hence my choice of words. But if you prefer to think of yourself as anti-god, then fair enough, if that gets you through your day.

What 'knee-jerk anti-religiosity' are talking about ?
Nobody's in particular. Generally I don't try to convince the religious that they are wrong in their beliefs, but some people do, and we have had interminable discussions on these boards about that. I thought you were referring to some of those discussions, so wrote in that context.

Getting off-topic now, though, aren't we? Can we go back to Palin being a wingnut?

I'm not anti-god, I just believe there isn't one. As I said, for some people the 'god' construct helps them get through the day. I don't have a problem with that. Hence my choice of words. But if you prefer to think of yourself as anti-god, then fair enough, if that gets you through your day.

To be clear, a 'theist' is someone who believes in god. An 'anti-theist' is someone who is against those who believe in god, So to describe myself as 'anti-theist' is to say I am against religion not 'anti-god' (as I do not think such things exist that would be a nonsense).

Also, being 'anti-theist' does not help get me through the day anymore that being against racism, infant execution or torture helps get me through the day.

Nobody's in particular. Generally I don't try to convince the religious that they are wrong in their beliefs, but some people do, and we have had interminable discussions on these boards about that. I thought you were referring to some of those discussions, so wrote in that context.

The only thing I was drawing from those discussions was support for the idea that to question, quiz or challenge religious notions draws much hostility from a culture that (whilst not necessarily religious itself) sees the challenging of other peoples supernatural beliefs to be beyond the pale.

My question to you was about your use of the word 'knee-jerk' I was confused (and still am) as to what it refers?

Getting off-topic now, though, aren't we? Can we go back to Palin being a wingnut?

Are you American ? What is a 'wingnut' ?

Are you another reincarnation of Tynan? Ignore the comment if you're not.

Okay, you're against people believing in god. I'm not, though I don't share their beliefs.

As for getting through the day - erm, very glib. But people's personal ideational framework is usually quite crucial to how they get through the day, given that all the data to which people are exposed each day gets parsed through that framework. Generally I find people who are comfortable with their particular belief system find it easier to get through the day. Maybe you don't. It's kinda besides the point (which was Palin).

'What is a wingnut' - it is indeed American slang for a politician, usually on the right, who is ideological to the point of ignoring facts (for fear that the facts might puncture their little bubble, being the insinuation).

And I'm half-American, yes.

You seem a lot more interested in picking a fight than in discussing Palin - I'm happy to do the latter, the former would be boring.

Edit to add - maybe you mean this in the spirit of 'challenging beliefs'. Fair enough - but nitpicking creates an argument, not a discussion.

Okay, you're against people believing in god. I'm not, though I don't share their beliefs.

Yes, I am against people believing in god**. (for the love of a rolling eyes icon!)

[puts head in hands and weeps for the death of nuanced conversation]

;) goodnight.

**just in case it is not obvious, no I am not against the freedom to believe whatever it is one believes, in fact I cannot see even how you could stop someone from believing what they believe - outside of some enforced chemical control of their brain)

Hah! Fair enough. We can chat god stuff over a beer at some point I'm sure.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfz6QGmuvp4

and another.
[ame="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Y"]YouTube - Palin Biden Debate-The 5 minute version[/ame]

OBAMA MEANS TO MAKE YOU HIS BEEATCH, PALIN TELLS WHITE WOMEN

THE US presidential campaign turned negative last night as Republican Sarah Palin warned white women they will soon become Barak Obama's beeatches.

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Palin said Obama had a secret plan to 'get him some sweet, vanilla ass and then knock dose bitches up, one by one'.

She told a rally in North Carolina: "He wants to fill this great nation with his coffee coloured babies and then, while you are nursing his mutant seed, he will use your porch for selling crack to whores. Black whores."

Palin also accused Obama of once being in the same room as a man who had watched the first half of the dangerously bad domestic terror movie Arlington Road.
Governor Palin said: "How much did Mr Obama learn from that experience? Is he already poring over the blueprints of your local library?

"And if he is willing to breathe the same air as someone who condones terrorism, how long before Jeff Bridges is blamed for blowing up that library, even though it was actually Tim Robbins and John Cusack's sister?

"Instead of indulging in long, slow French kisses with one of the Cusacks, we must do all we can to protect Jeff Bridges and make sure Tim Robbins faces the ultimate penalty."

She added: "It's a shame because Tim Robbins was really good in The Shawshank Redemption. And he was innocent in that one - I think."

"Love the Jews, someday they'll find Jesus."

if america votes McPalin into office they should just put up a massive wall around the country and seal the US off from the rest of the world.

like east berlin.

maybe give the dissenters a few months to leave and free EU, Canadian or Mexican passports, just to be a bit humanitarian about it... there will be refugees.

This link deserves a bump in this thread.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/2846223983_31f80cb1da_o.jpg

Don't click it if you're in the presence of small children or neo-cons.

Ewwww.

she was on american choppers the other week, a very awkward conversation

sarah palin with a vagina for a face. thanks for that. welcome to 2009.

A literal representation of the term "predators face"? You might just want to put NSFW.

I thought "Don't click it if you're in the presence of small children or neo-cons." was near enough but you're right.
Similarly a thread called "Sarah Palin" should ordinarily be enough.

GOOOD GOD.
I lol'd..