People at Work

yey more morons to cycle round on my way to work.

Now according to the BBC we will be seeing yet more people on bikes on the road, and by the looks of it they will be taking hints from the track cyclists and drafting along right up my arse, nice!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7571882.stm

show a touch more arse cleavage.. keeps them at bay

yey more morons to cycle round on my way to work.

Should they be encouraging them to drive to work instead?

I'll be honest and say that track cycling is of no interest to me, but if Team GB's success gets a few more people on two-wheels, then, in the words of my excitable ex, 'YAY!'.

no. They should be sorting out public transport and getting them all on that.

that BBC piece on drafting has some interesting comments:

"Standing up; the one fact which I remember from cycle proficiency training is that you should never, ever, stand up. The trainer even went as far as to say that standing up to cycle off after the end of the test would result in an instant fail. I can't comment on its effect on cycling efficiency, but from a cycling proficiency standpoint, it's apparently a big no-no.
**Thomas, Cardiff"

**anyone done one of these courses and been told this? why would they say that? do they assume that numpties can't handle a bike while climbing out of the saddle?

no. They should be sorting out public transport and getting them all on that.

The BBC?

At what point does one graduate from being a 'moron you have to cycle around'?
The more on bikes the better, I think. The more they ride the better they get and the more people give a fuck about cyclists in general.

that BBC piece on drafting has some interesting comments:

"Standing up; the one fact which I remember from cycle proficiency training is that you should never, ever, stand up. The trainer even went as far as to say that standing up to cycle off after the end of the test would result in an instant fail. I can't comment on its effect on cycling efficiency, but from a cycling proficiency standpoint, it's apparently a big no-no.
**Thomas, Cardiff"

**anyone done one of these courses and been told this? why would they say that? do they assume that numpties can't handle a bike while climbing out of the saddle?

My guess is that Thomas is refering to the old cycling proficiency test that was abandoned many years ago on the grounds of being useless. The new cycle training has only recently been revamped and reintroduced. I would imagine that it isn't part of the training but also isn't prohibited.

Yeah, someone traveling slower than you has no bearing on their intelligence.
You might pass me one day.. and I won't even bat an eyelid.. but it will be my rest day.. and the day after consider yourself smoked and resigned to live forever in the Moron Bin.

More people on bikes = Wicked.

around here (no not london so sure my opinion doesn't count) a large percentage of the people riding bikes are not safe there bikes are not safe they will never be safe. they ride a bike with no brakes (i don't mean fixed gear i mean no brakes) they do not understand the highway code or some of the most basic principles of riding safely on a bike there has been a spate up here of people digging out bikes from the back of their shed and riding around without any maintenance. i'm sure alot of these people also drive cars which worries me even more. so yes i class alot of the people i ride round on the way to work as morons.

on the other hand there a alot of riders that i regularly see on route that are able to ride a bike safely. they do keep there bikes in a condition that is not dangerous. These people i do not call morons. same as i don't call someone a moron for trying cycling who knows they may like it. just aslong as they understand some of the basic principles of riding a bike on public roads.

around here (no not london so sure my opinion doesn't count) a large percentage of the people riding bikes are not safe there bikes are not safe they will never be safe. ...

Where is "here" so I never go there?

A proportion of the entire population will always be morons. Morons on bikes are better than morons in cars. So +1 to "more people on bikes = wicked".

but surely morons in buses driven by non morons is better still.

If you increase the use of any mode of transport, you will have a higher number of morons using that mode, although the distribution of morons in the population will remain the same.

More buses = more morons driving buses.

More cyclists = more morons riding bikes.

Unless you want to get all 19thC eugenicist about it, you have to accept that as an inevitability.

I'd prefer more bikes on the road than buses.

why when i make a throw away comment regarding my ride to work and the number of "morons" i have to get past do i get my head bitten off and have to justify my statment. we all know that there are people out on the road that cause accidents because of an incapability to control their vehicle atleast if they are on the buses you reduce the number of dangerous vehicles on the road.

Put your toys back in the pram and relax. Nobody's biting your head off. Just pointing out the flaws in your logic ;-)

why when i make a throw away comment regarding my ride to work and the number of "morons" i have to get past do i get my head bitten off and have to justify my statment. we all know that there are people out on the road that cause accidents because of an incapability to control their vehicle atleast if they are on the buses you reduce the number of dangerous vehicles on the road.

Quite right novocaine,the roads are too full of cycling morons.A lot of cnuts too.

Morons on bikes are easier to avoid.

Hm. I have mixed feelings about this.

On the one hand, morons riding bikes are far less likely to shmoosh me into a pancake than morons driving buses.

But on the other hand, a lot of morons on bikes will turn the streets something akin to a bumper car arena... everybody going at different speeds, swerving every which way. I did the BHF London to Southend ride last month, and it was exactly like that. Transplant that to a typical central London street, and you've got a recipe for disaster. Moron cyclists may not be able to shmoosh me, and they may be easy to avoid, but it doesn't do me much good if avoiding them means going into the path of a vehicle that can shmoosh me.

Novocaine, we picked on your statement because it is the typical selfish road-user statement and again you proved that cyclists - whoever they are - are not welcome on the roads.

Why are you allowed to be on the road and other people have to use public transport? Oh yes because they are morons and you are not.

Unfortunately yes some people are a danger on the roads but I prefer them to be on a pushbike than driving a car, van, hgv or indeed a bus.

that BBC piece on drafting has some interesting comments:

"Standing up; the one fact which I remember from cycle proficiency training is that you should never, ever, stand up. The trainer even went as far as to say that standing up to cycle off after the end of the test would result in an instant fail. I can't comment on its effect on cycling efficiency, but from a cycling proficiency standpoint, it's apparently a big no-no.
Thomas, Cardiff"

anyone done one of these courses and been told this? why would they say that? do they assume that numpties can't handle a bike while climbing out of the saddle?

I did my cycling proficiency back in the 70's and don't remember that. I do remember being told not to use my front brake too much, alway use the rear first.

My brother failed it. Moron.

My brother failed it. Moron.

Good heavens, I hope your brother take the bus.

He's a country bumpkin, so he drives everywhere.

no it's not a selfish comment. as part of my justification i stated i had no problems with people on the road who are safe. part of the bbc article was talking about drafting. if i get drafted by someone who has no brakes i think i'll be trying my hardest to get away from them.

a bike can carry one person. a bus can carry 50 i'd rather see 50 people on a bus with a safe driver than 50 people wobbling about on unsafe equipment.

i got a local magazine though today that talks about using bikes as transport. it's got a bit about the new training scheme in it which i think is a fantastic idea.

Erm, isn't this essentially a commuters' forum?