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It's the hairline that confuses people. In fact I was mistaken for 38 at 44Con last week, which was rubbish.

I was ranting a little last night (seemed to be doing a lot of that) to some people about the cost of race bikes; not just the build costs but the costs of running them.

E.g. I popped to Condor last week for a few bits and bobs. Swiss Stop brake pads, Campagnolo Record cable set (inners and outers) and 2 Continental inner tubes (80mm) came to a still staggering £76/78.

Only when I got home did I realise I'd paid £9/inner tube. Absolutely fucking sickening.

Considering the annual income of the industry mixed with the hideous mark-up levels it makes you think who the fuck is making all the money, it's certainly not the bike shops (except Condor) ;).

Everybody seems to charge a premium for 80mm valve tubes. I suppose they tend to be used on expensive wheels so they feel that they can get away with it.

Do what I do...there is an eBay shop that does 10 conti 60mm valve tubes for £25 posted. I use those on all of my bikes...I just have to make sure I remember valve extenders if I'm riding my deep rims.

Funny you say that. Dorset, Hampshire and Wiltshire's road race circuits have all but disappeared. All that you can compete in down there now is TT's. Bloody annoying, but great fun.

Dan. What ebay store is that mate?

£30, my bad.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130531211576?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Cheers mate. Invaluable.

Up until very recently I was running from a 50 inner tube job lot I'd bought from Wiggle which worked out at £2.50 each. I've pretty much forgotten how to repair then now! ;)

Just a certificate and a pair of (non-bibbed) cycling shorts with Royal Mail on them.

It was 5 miles which I covered in 13.05 which thinking about it now was quite a good effort for a 12 year old. I remember it well.

I'd probably be closer to 15 minutes now.

Cheers mate. Invaluable.

Up until very recently I was running from a 50 inner tube job lot I'd bought from Wiggle which worked out at £2.50 each. I've pretty much forgotten how to repair then now! ;)

if you buy 100 tubes from that shop it works out at £2.39 I think.

^Actually that's a lie. It was £2.00 each as I paid £100 for them. Even more lies as it was Ribble from whom I bought them. I miss their old deals of awesome before some upstart thought they needed a business plan.

Liar, liar, your pants are clearly on fire.

@Rowhan. I assume you bailed right? Hopefully you made it home.

Yeah, didnt go anywhere in the end.. I was Le tired. Stayed in the RoeB.

Thought you weren't out last night?

Can't you just wander into Cycle Surgery with a smartphone and pricematch them to within an inch of their lives

...and then get them to LCC discount it as a trump card?

Kensington High St branch hate me.

I was sure this was going to be about two girls and one cup!

@Ben.

If you'd been involved in the conversations at the beginning I was having with people I candidly admit that my experience is limited to approx 100m of riding Sram Red.

However what you should realise is that I've been riding bikes all my life and specifically racing bikes since I was 14. That's 15 years of pretty much daily riding experience. I also am in more than just the LFGSS community but am a member of two race clubs in London and Dorset. I also know a number of people who work in the industry; not the likes of Tokyo Fixed Gear but proper, dedicated race bikes shops. I also know Albi ;).

I'm sorry but people who got involved in cycling through the fixed scene over the last few years and suddenly have a race bike (often their first) who then feel they have the knowledge base, skills base and experience base with which to inform me that I don't know what I'm talking about is slightly abrasive.

SRAM has a comfortable hood, yes. But from what I gather and understand the shifting system is certainly down in usability from both Campy and Shammy. Furthermore I have heard numerous people complaining that the braking quality is poor and (also per Albi last night) there is also no centering screw on the calipers (at least Rival, not sure about Red).

The 2 jobs a groupset serve is braking and gear changing. Seems Sram have someway to go.

Lol. You should have seen the first draft! ;)

Fucking SRAM lovers. Bunch a liberal-voting c*nts if you ask me.

Still not Super Record of Di2 though is it?

That sir, was fucking quick.

Photos or it didn't happen.

It's the hairline that confuses people. In fact I was mistaken for 38 at 44Con last week, which was rubbish.

I was ranting a little last night (seemed to be doing a lot of that) to some people about the cost of race bikes; not just the build costs but the costs of running them.

E.g. I popped to Condor last week for a few bits and bobs. Swiss Stop brake pads, Campagnolo Record cable set (inners and outers) and 2 Continental inner tubes (80mm) came to a still staggering £76/78.

Only when I got home did I realise I'd paid £9/inner tube. Absolutely fucking sickening.

Considering the annual income of the industry mixed with the hideous mark-up levels it makes you think who the fuck is making all the money, it's certainly not the bike shops (except Condor) ;).

BTW is there a dark rant thread? Think I might need to go>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

^Old fuck.

Did you get a medal or anything? What was the distance?

Funny you say that. Dorset, Hampshire and Wiltshire's road race circuits have all but disappeared. All that you can compete in down there now is TT's. Bloody annoying, but great fun.

Facking hell.... you get your Coke jar and sugar jar mixed up when you were making your coffee this morning?? Rant rant rant...

Nah. I said I was too busy to get over to the Roebuck. As it turned out even the Hill proved to be a hellish affair due to bike damage.

Not sure what's wrong with me atm. Feeling quite angry still. Going home tomorrow couldn't come soon enough. ;)

Nah. I said I was too busy to get over to the Roebuck. As it turned out even the Hill proved to be a hellish affair due to bike damage.

Not sure what's wrong with me atm. Feeling quite angry still. Going home tomorrow couldn't come soon enough. ;)

What happen to le bike? Angry because of damage or angry "moody sod Jon didn't get his 10hrs sleep yesterday grumpy git Jon" angry? ;D

Le bike! Really? Andy your not a rage comic. Actually you kinda are aren't you.

Jockey wheel came out under power and was unable to find it. Made riding nigh on impossible.

Definitely angry sod John due to lack of sleep and general pissed off-ness.

And which componement manufacturer makes such quality rear derailleurs, Jon? ;P

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Jockey wheel came out under power

And which componement manufacturer makes such quality rear derailleurs, Jon? ;P

....and who had you lent the bike to?

Le bike! Really? Andy your not a rage comic. Actually you kinda are aren't you.

Ragers gonna rage..

... came out under power

Ha

Definitely angry sod John due to lack of sleep and general pissed off-ness.

Aw biish. Hope you ge some good sleep biish. Jasmine tea in the evening - seem to remember that fixed you before on many an occasion. Got a spare box if you want

Ragers gonna rage..

Indeed!

That sir, was fucking quick.

Photos or it didn't happen.

how much and pics please?

Oh hai sram! I ordered it yesterday lunch time and this morning i was woken up with an email from them saying it would be delivered to me between 11 and 12.
They were true to their word and it arrived at 11:30. Mucho respect Fudge Cycles. £349 for the complete groupset.

excellent smithers

Out of interest.... Does anybody from norths have a campag 111mm bb going spare? Ideally the Centaur cause it's black with English threads... Other wise I'll search the net

I was sure this was going to be about two girls and one cup!

@Ben.

If you'd been involved in the conversations at the beginning I was having with people I candidly admit that my experience is limited to approx 100m of riding Sram Red.

However what you should realise is that I've been riding bikes all my life and specifically racing bikes since I was 14. That's 15 years of pretty much daily riding experience. I also am in more than just the LFGSS community but am a member of two race clubs in London and Dorset. I also know a number of people who work in the industry; not the likes of Tokyo Fixed Gear but proper, dedicated race bikes shops. I also know Albi ;).

I'm sorry but people who got involved in cycling through the fixed scene over the last few years and suddenly have a race bike (often their first) who then feel they have the knowledge base, skills base and experience base with which to inform me that I don't know what I'm talking about is slightly abrasive.

SRAM has a comfortable hood, yes. But from what I gather and understand the shifting system is certainly down in usability from both Campy and Shammy. Furthermore I have heard numerous people complaining that the braking quality is poor and (also per Albi last night) there is also no centering screw on the calipers (at least Rival, not sure about Red).

The 2 jobs a groupset serve is braking and gear changing. Seems Sram have someway to go.

Sorry dude but that was just too easy. I do know that you know what you are talking about. Otherwise I'd be very worried about why you shave your legs. Class A rant mind.