Deeeeeep profile wheels

http://www.hipsternascar.com/2008/07/true-v-42mm-deep-rims.html

[INDENT]*Saw these Ultra Deep Tzoo rims over on Southsea Fixed Gear Fight Club. They're available outside of Japan for the first time at Brick Lane Bikes. I used to live just down the road from Brick Lane Bikes. True story.
*[/INDENT]Can someone explain to me what the attraction is to these things?

I mean, they're heavy, they're eminently thievable and they cost a ton. And they have no braking surface.

Plus they usually adorn old steel bikes that should have fucking dynamos and fenders.

Granted, allegedly Deep Vs are 'bombproof' - but I've ragged my normal-profile Mavics to hell and back and they're still true. I've had to get a spoke key out now and again, but that's hardly an effort?

So - what is it about these things? Hip-hop slavery to Mammon? Or is there something that I'm too stupid to see here?

(edit to add - I'm not talking track use here. But if anyone can explain the track utility of these things I'd be interested to hear it)

They look cool (to the people that buy them).

No more. No less.

Move along.

They look cool (to the people that buy them).

No more. No less.

Move along.

Fair enough. Am just often shocked to see bikes where the rims are the most expensive parts on them. Frame and hubs seem more crucial to the ride...

how much are blb selling them for?

True V (Formation Face) – £47 / Machined surface – £44

Okay, so they do them machined. Still. £44 for a rim? Plus a decent hub, you're looking at about a ton before labour. For one wheel.

Are they're heavier than velocity deep v?

Probably?

(christ, is this going to turn into a 'i want one' thread?)

True V (Formation Face) – £47 / Machined surface – £44

Okay, so they do them machined. Still. £44 for a rim? Plus a decent hub, you're looking at about a ton before labour. For one wheel.

£44 a rim is better than a velocity.

Deeper = cooler, more exclusive and all that shizzle.

It reminds me of the american vintage car scene. While in this country vintage car enthusiasts painstakingly restore cars to their original factory condition.

In the US, they universally do this:

I want two.

Probably?

(christ, is this going to turn into a 'i want one' thread?)

probably, I like the look, if it's heavier than the velocity counterpart, I'd go for the velocity.

probably, I like the look, if it's heavier than the velocity counterpart, I'd go for the velocity.

I wonder if a few months from now everyone's going to be chatting about how thin rims are they way forward...

Christ, Velocity has got to have made a shitload of money off this fad already. Are they listed? Where can I short the stock?

Next week : disk wheels! Front and back. Fuck the wind! HTFU! My HHSB doubles as a sail!

As I asked before:

Can someone explain to me what the attraction is to these things?

the attraction is really simple to be honest - the deep V.

everyone buy the velocity deep V because of the colour and the deep v, not because it's a very good rims (quite decent to be honest), it's really mostly appearance.

Can someone explain to me what the attraction is to these things?

I mean, they're heavy, they're eminently thievable and they cost a ton. And they have no braking surface.

Plus they usually adorn old steel bikes that should have fucking dynamos and fenders.

Granted, allegedly Deep Vs are 'bombproof' - but I've ragged my normal-profile Mavics to hell and back and they're still true. I've had to get a spoke key out now and again, but that's hardly an effort?

So - what is it about these things? Hip-hop slavery to Mammon? Or is there something that I'm too stupid to see here?

They look good, not many cyclists out there are trying to break the hour record or even shave 3 seconds off their P.B. - so the fact that the rim is 100g heavier than an OpenPro will not even register on their radar, but these 'casual' cyclists might be attracted to the look of a deep section wheel, especially if they are in vogue.

We might as well post up on an athletics forum about all the idiots wearing trainers that plainly offer no sporting advantage.

So, I reckon I will go with the Hip-hop slavery to Mammon option. I will admit to being a weight weenie, so can't bring myself to put a Deep V on a bike, but I do like the look of them.

Anyhow those aren't deep, these bastards are deep:

As I asked before:

Can someone explain to me what the attraction is to these things?

They look good. Nothing wrong with that as far as I can see.

Planet X are doing some deals on some massive deep V rims, there made out of carbon fibre though so not idea for your daily commuter. Deep V rims have been popular for a long time in the track bike world, there more aerodynamic and once there up to speed having the weight there will help to keep you at the same speed and they do look cool.

Is that the frame you brought recently and want to change it into a fixed gear bike?

That your new project bike tynan?

Is that the frame you brought recently and want to change it into a fixed gear bike?

Yep, new dropouts put in by FGL's SuperTed™ - as well as various other puppicide such as removing braze-ons and filling in water bottle holes.

Stuff like wheels and post/saddle in the picture are not the one's I am using, they are just thrown on to check the geometry . . .

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8431/cheesegz4.jpg

so far so good! I genuinely can't wait to see the finish project, I always wonder how weird would it be to ride with such a short stem.

Deep section rims look cool, but i think too many people put em on classic conversions which often the are not suited too. I also think tht you can get them in crazy colours adds to the appeal, as 99.9% of rims look, well, boring.

The Zipp rims are the nuts, i have salivated over them in SBR many a time.

Tynan, cant wait to see the finished article, they sure did a nice job dow at FGL on that frame.

h20: i got a pair of these for my new build. they're pretty, and strong as fuck. plus they're matte black! and deep as hell!!! and infinitely lighter than deep v's...

If you're going to do cross-country, deep sections help give you mud clearance and a stronger cross-section.

They have a speed advantage when you're racing.

However both of those are unlikely to affect you when fixed... but hey it's not like discs have any advantage at all when not raced inside or in low wind conditions... so as hippy says, just for looks.

£44 a rim is better than a velocity.

I'm confused...

and the bike looks great tynan!
I want to see it painted now, assuming that it will be

£44 a rim is better than a velocity.

skeletonboy, what's going on with Birmingham pricing?

Deep Vs are nearer the £35 mark here.

Then again we can't get a powdercoat for twenty quid...

'parrantly the true v formation face rims are about the same weight as velocitys.

I think it's more than aesthetics. There's an identity associated with non machined deep section rims.
deep section unmachined = no brake = fixed gear

though sometimes the equation goes wrong:

deep section unmachined + more than 5 points on hipster bingo = no brake + member of the beloved "fixie scene"