Police spotting (junction watch)

Nimhbus my old chum, nothing stops you telling johny pigfuck that you have no id, but if ya don't he/she/it has every right to take you to the nearest station to establish your identity. You, of course can refuse to cooperate, in which case you will be knicked. Chink chink. Have you been arrested?

I imagine you have spent a lot of time incarcerated for misdemeanors. Oh and is there no id in your wallet.??

In fact fuck it, nimhbus by friend, antagonize the old bill until your blue in the face & let me know how you get on. Best of Luck. X

for not carrying a wallet? when out exercising on your bike? ridiculous.

Ridiculous indeed.

It's on the tail end of the grief for travelling without a ticket and the whole on the spot fine malarky.

If you get done for a lack of ticket and allege you have no id and no loot, vagrancy is the charge.

ok. what is to stop you telling them you don't have a wallet or any form of ID with you, then?

tell them all you like, when they search you and your bag, find your wallet, with your library and crass fanclub membership cards, you'll look pretty dumb....jesus.

think you'd find yourself in slightly hotter water than just jumping a red light.....

and they certainly can check you on the CRO over the radio in a few secs....you don't even have to be previously convicted for this to work....just known.....

they can't be charging ID-less cyclists with vagrancy surely Shirley?

That's a bum rap.

Winston, have you been in my bag?

I've always wondered how hot it could get off a simple stop-and-ID request - you know, you get pulled over and you haven't been doing anything remotely wrong, you get asked for ID, you refuse, but though you actually haven't got any on you you wrap it up with a bit of martyrdom, maybe like you've something to hide, you basically refuse to give any details and demand to talk to your solicitor; when they ask you to supply your solicitor's details you refuse. And so on.

I'm wondering if you can end up in prison forever as the pig-incensed carnage ensues.

In my experience. Its always best to play the game when dealing with the police. Far less likelihood of things escalating then. That's if your caught of course ;)

whatever man, cyclists definitely run reds more than anyone else by a long way. regardless of how we feel about it, it is a fact.

Yeah, so why the big concern when the cops start pulling cyclists then?
Cyclists should either take it on the chin when they're fined and shut the hell up or these police blitzes should focus on someone else, someone more likely to do damage when running reds.. like, say, a car or a motorbike.

How much easier is it to simply don't jump a red when you know there's police around?

How about not jumping reds at all? It is the law after all.

Fucking C+ thread.. fucksake I could be stealing more pint glasses and not typing this shit.

Buttt (sic) your not.

I was waiting at a red light this morning with two other cyclists in Acton. Been there for 10-20 seconds. Motorbike just rides around us on the right and turns left, past us all, on the red.

Fuck any cunt that gives me that 'cyclists always run reds' bullshit. I'll stab 'em upside the head.

I'll stab 'em upside the head.<<

Booyakasha.

Wiki wiki wicked!

Buttt (sic) your not.

I don't make the fucked licensing laws.

How about not jumping reds at all? It is the law after all.

Honestly I rather jump it if there's a lorry right behind me, I almost got squashed by one twice.

How?

How?

they couldn't see me, even on the ASL.

They can't ask for ID randomly as you don't have to carry it. But they can check your person to establish you tell them the truth. You have to have done something wrong, such as jumping red. If they suspect you of something you don't have to give your name.

Or, if they stop you under Section 44, you don't have to give your name, but they can incidentally find your name on cards etc during a search.

I don't know what pre 1970 world Nimbus lives in where you only use cash and carrying ID with different names on raises no shit.

Once they realise you lied about who you are - and only over a 30 quid fine - they will want to know what you so keen to hide from them...

they can't be charging ID-less cyclists with vagrancy surely Shirley?

That's a bum rap.

No, indeed they can't. But as mentioned upthread, if they have witnessed you commiting an offence (as opposed to crime) then it becomes offense to withhold information or provide false information.

If you say you don't have an address, you just confessed to vagrancy.
If you provide an address, they can always take you there to check. One might presume you would at least be carrying keys. They are a form of proof of ID. Even if you aren't carrying keys, it's not unreasonable that they might expect you to tell them your plans to regain entry to said address.

It's quite easy to see how withholding ID can turn into a big clusterfuck for yourself ending up with the police engaging in a book throwing exercise. No bell, that's an offence. No reflector, that's an offense. No reflectors on your pedals, that's an offence. Wasting police time, that's an offence. And so it goes.

If they suspect you of something you don't have to give your name.

not true

This thread is turning into a Vicky Pollard
"Yeah but yeah but"

no, mate -why don't * you* tell me how they check, since it is you that asserted the idea that they can, with their magical powers.

of course people have tried it -tried it and got away with it, millions of times.

go on, tell me. how do they check?

message received and understood now?

jesus.

roger that

nimbhus - have you not got better things to do? Like terrorising old lady pedestrians or such like :^]