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• #27
I am surprised no one in this thread has mentioned 'float'.
Try a pedal with lots of float.
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• #28
Right- swapped the cleats over, turned out that I got it right the first time.
Cue much knee pain until I stopped and changed them back again.
This time I put the cleats on dead straight- no more hip pain.
Now I just need to work out how to stop the original "heel out" issue.Tynan- I got these pedals because they had more float than Look.
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• #29
Guess I should have gone for the speedplay- but I am rather too close to the 85 kilo weight limit for comfort!
Bebop (or if you are feeling posh Bebop deluxe) - same stack height as Speedplay, superlight (185g a pair !!) - made from steel, no weight limit, lots of float.
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• #30
those sidi's are well nice how much do they set one back?
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• #31
Here's a Guardian article on fitting your bike, with a link to the Cyclefit site:
http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/wellbeing/story/0,,2287147,00.html
I have had a Cyclefit session., It was £200 for a fitting and custom footbads. The session lasted two hours. They measured me, filmed me peddalling, advised me, set my bike up etc and since then I have never had a twinge. £200 is a lot but, in my case at least, was money well spent. I have sent various friends there. Although many were initially sceptical, they were all won over. Cyclefit are also good at not pressing their own bikes on you. Mind you, if you have a few thousand to spend....
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• #32
From that which has been said Cyclefit does seem to be a good idea- just not at this point in the month when I have not budgeted for it.
In the meantime I shall have a look for a UK importer of those Bebop pedals- just to find that (being a Tynan recommendation) they cost £11,246,987.00 per pair...
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• #33
Dammit, you should obviously make sure your general bike setup is good first, stuff like saddle height, position, tilt etc. But if you heel is sticking out naturally and you change te cleats to effectively force it back in, you could make things worse.
As a quick and simple test, sit down somewhere where you legs can dangle without touching the ground and see what way your toes point (out/in/straight). If they naturally point in, you really shouldn't force them back, as this will have a knock-on effect to your knees, and possibly upto your back. These things are way more connected then you might think ;-). You should adjust the cleats so that your foot points in it's natural direction.
Apart from the fact your heel was kicking out, was this causing any issues origianlly, like pain/discomfort?
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Few more points. You can check your foot orientation simply by lying on your back. Your feet will naturally flop a little to the outside - have someone see how far this is for you and it should be obvious if either one foot is more than another or if you're feet are pointing quite far out. My right is a little more turned out than my left so I correct for it. A mate (non cyclist!) has feet that point out 45 degrees, no joke!!!
It might be a fore/aft cleat position thing too.
It could also be a muscular imbalance round the upper thigh/hip - the muscles that control the rotation of the leg. Hard to tell without the aid a physio.
I'd vote for paying some cash out and seeing someone who knows about bike fitting.
Courant
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• #34
If SPD worked for you in the beginning why not use them now? £15 for a new set is a bit cheaper than a £200 cyclefit. Although, as someone who has shelled out for a cyclefit.. I can also recommend them.
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• #35
From that which has been said Cyclefit does seem to be a good idea- just not at this point in the month when I have not budgeted for it.
In the meantime I shall have a look for a UK importer of those Bebop pedals- just to find that (being a Tynan recommendation) they cost £11,246,987.00 per pair...
Not really that expensive, when you consider they come with cleats.
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• #36
The thing that put me off the speedplays (as well as the weight limit for the Ti ones) was that a new set of cleats was 40 quid and they wore down fast.I imagine the Bebop's are similar?
I changed from SPD as I wanted a bigger foot platform and lighter weight.
When fix mark two is finished it will run SPD as weight is not something I can do much about as it is a salvage special!
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• #37
i have a feeling decathlon do bike fittings, and it costs a lot less.
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• #38
yep, think they do them at bikehut too.
I think that there may be a market for bike friendly osteopaths
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• #39
There's probably a market for bike friendly cyclepaths as well...
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• #40
^^ not in this country you don't. we have our policy of cycling being for 2nd class citizens and thats how it will stay thank you very much. :P
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• #41
2nd class? Get you with your highfalutin airs and graces.
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• #42
maybe hes' from surrey or something
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• #43
surreyer
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• #44
"i look down on him as he's middle class" :)
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• #45
hehe
everyone on here is a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey*.
;-)
- or alternatively a a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey, in denial
- or alternatively a a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey, in denial
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• #46
hehe
everyone on here is a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey*.
;-)
- or alternatively a a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey, in denial
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong - or alternatively a a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey, in denial
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• #47
hehe
everyone on here is a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey*.
;-)
- or alternatively a a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey, in denial
Blimey, I didn't know that you knew me. Mind you, in this weather my skin is perhaps rosy rather than white. I don't often admit to having been brought up in Epsom and so there is the denial.
- or alternatively a a middle class, white, well educated public school boy, probably from surrey, in denial
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• #48
erm i guess i should admit i'm from hull now then.
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• #49
Must be the posh part then - I thought it was called 'Ull'.
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• #50
it get's worse
i now live between liverpool and manchester.
Beats me, I always have to look at the picture and even then it still takes me a while to figure it out