Ethical question

Hello, right, first post...

anyway, after a wild bender the other week I ended up buying a rusty old frame, a claud butler majestic, on ebay, i was sure it was some incredible old italian track frame as i fell into the keyboard bidding on it... anyway, my plan was to do it up, renovate back into something road worthy, and fixed gear... aside from the stuck seat post/ stem/ cranks etc I wanted to know...

is it fundamentally wrong to have it re-sprayed with a different logo on it? will anyone notice? has anyone here done it?

I wanted unipack on it - no really, i was thinking something that would be plausible, if its a reynolds frame would it be any different to stick another name, basically one with nicer logos, over the top, if they used simmilar frames???

any ideas? x

do what you like, it's been going on for years!

framebuilders would renovate someone else's build and slap their tranfers on

i like the username yossarian, claud butler is a better name than unipack. seriously.

i don't this really counts as an 'ethical' question...? i'm not sure i get what you're asking. it's a claud butler, but you want to put the decals of a different manufacturer on it? why? and unipack? again, why?

thanks its not my real name mind, youve read catch 22 right? my thinking was something along the lines of being insane to want to cycle through the traffic in london, though more insane to get, umm, public transport - i dont know, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

well, would it be a bit weird to get an old frame, and stick Bob Jackson over the top, then pretend its a bob jackson bike? ya get me?

Do what you want.

why not just not have stickers on it? that'll look best i reckon.

will anyone notice?

Notice? possibly. Care? unlikely

has anyone here done it?

almost everything has been done by people on here, decals being the least offensive things

you paid money for a rusty claud butler with rusty siezed parts?

Ever heard of scrapyards?

Youll spend hours getting the parts off, tidying up the frame, paying cash for paint & decals.

In the end the frame will probably crack from internal rust.

And the whole project wouldve cost you more than a "unipack" or other cheapo bike your planning to pass your off as.

... "just say no" plays in the background ....

skeletonboy - that is pretty much the concern I had, it will cost a lot to have it re-sprayed, and yeah I was concerned about it rusting inside...

superprecise - yeah, i did that with my first bike, I much prefer having something on the frame though...

everyone else - I was joking about the unipack thing, i do ride, i have seen those things in the flesh, i know they're shit.

thanks for the replies... if you see ayone cycling up towards armortex, with a rusty bike on his back, holding a bag of five pound notes ...

Do what you want.

'do what you like' the Soft Machine

'do what you like' the Soft Machine

'do what you wanna do' - Eddie & the Hot Rods

get some of that tartan paint...

'do what you like' the Soft Machine

'do what you wanna do' - Eddie & the Hot Rods

"do be do be do" - Frank Sintra
" do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do" - Manfred Man

'do what you like' the Soft Machine

'do what you wanna do' - Eddie & the Hot Rods

"do be do be do" - Frank Sintra
" do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do" - Manfred Man

Doin' The Do - Betty Boo.

if your still going ahead with it, ask the dudes at armotex to give you a look after they have stripped it.

That way you can have a good look at all the welds.

Do what you want.

Don't listen to this eejit. Do what we damn well tell you!

i'd say thats ethically wrong

I'm more worried that you're idea of a wild bender involves buying a rusty frame on ebay. What is wrong with the youth of today! ;)

bicycle witchcraft

Not really as pithy as the "kill one to save a thousand" debate but hey.

As said above, no-one will care, but somebody might point it out and you'll feel like a dick.

Have it repainted, with no branding and project your own personality onto it. That would be a cool thing to do.

or, if it's not worth much, paint it yourself

How about calling it Catch-22?

Yossarian Lives!