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dream is altec and lux is airplane i think

some say difference is due to decor
good reviews though
"Much stiffer than the Extreme C however far less comfortable and only about 1/5 kg heavier. Despite being made up from all the spare parts in my garage, this bike is a scalpel in crits and on descents and my biggest issue is running up the back of / up the inside of other "slower" riders on all sorts of corners. For smooth crits, this would be my weapon of choice and is the bike that I have recorded my fastest average race speeds ~47km/h in crits...."
relates to the dream hp /\with carbon rear bstay though

Thanks saarf intersting reviews indeed.

no problemo, this relayes to the all alu dream, i referenced it in the porn thread a few days ago
"Colnagos are designed to use an offset seatpost and a long stem that hangs the rider's weight over the wheels, not over the frame, which results in a short wheelbase and fast handling. The bike is planted. They just handle, like a Ferrari. The weight bias is perfect. That is how Ernesto Colnago intended them to be ridden."

New bars, cables and saddle to go with last weeks power meter.

Might have to go for a spin in the sun tomorrow!

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The S3 is coming together. Here with its alternate non-aero wheel set I just got from Telescope on here. IRD 30 rims on Royce hubs.

Just ordered a Dura Ace 9000 group set for under £1k thanks to Merlin. Now just need to decide on a stem and bars (the one shown is just securing the forks).

Thinking of Vision Metron 4D. Parameters- light stiff flat tops and aero.

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@Saarf

Awsome Dream! Great to hear some info about them. I was wondering if you can help me out. About a year ago i bought a NOS Colnago Dream Art Decor frameset and build it up with a "period correct" group set (8 speed Chorus/Record mix). I'm trying to find out when the frame was build but I find it really hard to come across some decent info. Do you have any idea? I had the FF replaced with an original one since it came with a really ugly fork (In Art Decor paint scheme though)

Also, how were they placed in colnago's hierarchy? Was it a high end frame set?

Thanks for your help!

Seatpost and saddle are going to be changed and the stem needs a coat of paint btw ;)

http://i.imgur.com/2cq5yNil.jpg

well it's an airplane art decor
circa1999-2001, there is an art decor build steel thread with one i sold in similar decor
was 4 from top c4-40. ct1. oval master, dream
catolog shows force forks, so your replacements are period correct

Thinking of Vision Metron 4D. Parameters- light stiff flat tops and aero.

Have you considered Zipp VukaSprint. Available now at below the RRP of the Vision bar, so you won't have to wait a week after the Vison bar hits the shops for it to drop to the 50% of RRP which is the correct price for FSA product :-)

Probably lighter and aero-er too.

^^^ The Dream was Colnago's "entry-level" frameset around the turn of the millennium. They went to the carbon B-Stay (as used on the C40) for the rear triangle around '03, for a year or so, and then they went to the HP (high power) version of the B-Stay (with the little diamond shaped hole in the chainstays) for a few years until it was discontinued.

Of course this was when they still made everything in Italy so "entry-level" is not much like their current cheaper Giant-produced frames that come with 105. Think they originally retailed around £1200 for the frameset.

I have a Dream B-Stay and I absolutely love it.

here's an '03
http://www.racycles.com/products/detail/27974

^ slightly confusing, there's a Master Olympic Pista (I think?) and a C-50 among those pics.

Here's a (fanboyish, admittedly) review of the Dream B-Stay:

http://www.thewashingmachinepost.net/2005/colnago/dream/index.html

^^^ The Dream was Colnago's "entry-level" frameset around the turn of the millennium. They went to the carbon B-Stay (as used on the C40) for the rear triangle around '03, for a year or so, and then they went to the HP (high power) version of the B-Stay (with the little diamond shaped hole in the chainstays) for a few years until it was discontinued.

Of course this was when they still made everything in Italy so "entry-level" is not much like their current cheaper Giant-produced frames that come with 105. Think they originally retailed around £1200 for the frameset.

I have a Dream B-Stay and I absolutely love it.

2001 cat model hierachy
c40 b stay
Ct1
Oval master
Dream plus
Master x light
technos
vip
chic

i shied away from bstay as i heard it loses stiffness in the stay join, or can become unbonded, carbon to alu

I like to live dangerously.

^ slightly confusing, there's a Master Olympic Pista (I think?) and a C-50 among those pics.

Here's a (fanboyish, admittedly) review of the Dream B-Stay:

http://www.thewashingmachinepost.net/2005/colnago/dream/index.html

click through the images at the bottom

Yeah, there were a couple in there, but the default one was definitely not a Dream.

TBH I do worry about the bonding, but I check it regularly. If it did die I'd have another in a heartbeat. Though I'd love to try a C-50.

Have you considered Zipp VukaSprint. Available now at below the RRP of the Vision bar, so you won't have to wait a week after the Vison bar hits the shops for it to drop to the 50% of RRP which is the correct price for FSA product :-)

Probably lighter and aero-er too.

Zipp looks good although the 4D has nicer ergonomics. Sadly I suspect that mounting my Garmin means I will have to take a bit of a weight hit and that I'll have to fit one of these, the LTD is claimed 178g - unless you are able to point me elsewhere?

Yeah, there were a couple in there, but the default one was definitely not a Dream.

TBH I do worry about the bonding, but I check it regularly. If it did die I'd have another in a heartbeat. Though I'd love to try a C-50.

the problem i feared with the dream hp relates to the alu/carbon bond
all carbon hp stays are vulnerable in another way, there is no exit holes for water, so round the drop out join can be real bad inside

the problem i feared with the dream hp relates to the alu/carbon bond
all carbon hp stays are vulnerable in another way, there is no exit holes for water, so round the drop out join can be real bad inside

And the dropouts are steel, aren't they? Though I read somewhere they were stainless, at least.

Fuck it, new C59 then.

I quite like the italia one;

http://colnago.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/C59-ITALIA-AD10.jpg

AD10, the greatest Colnago paint scheme of all. Need to be the horizontal top tube version though.

I suspect the reason why I liked it cause it remind me of the Mapel Colnago.

Zipp looks good although the 4D has nicer ergonomics. Sadly I suspect that mounting my Garmin means I will have to take a bit of a weight hit and that I'll have to fit one of these, the LTD is claimed 178g - unless you are able to point me elsewhere?

3T Team stem and one of these:

Thanks @Saarf en @Regal! I know my way around steel Dutch racing bikes but I have to get used to Alu and Italians ;)

Good read btw on the Colnago Dream review, nice to read up on the sizing etc!