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I don't know, mixing it up sounds like fun to me.
I'd be more worried about 24/28 + a big chap. Wouldn't 36/36 (or least 32/32) be more sensible?

Red spokes is a terrible thing to do to a poor set of wheels.

I quite like it on the Ksyriums Sl's - it might look gash you're right.

I don't know, mixing it up sounds like fun to me.
I'd be more worried about 24/28 + a big chap. Wouldn't 36/36 (or least 32/32) be more sensible?

24/28 should be plenty (I'm not that big). The Fulcrum 5's I just bought off Benjam are 20/24 and he's a good 5 inches taller than me and said he'd never noticed any flex. But as A23's don't go to 20h I'll plump for 24/28

^ you need to be a bit careful comparing spoke counts - OTP wheels are often built with much thicker/wider spokes than conventional hubs will accept, to compensate for the lower spoke count. The rims are often reinforced in different ways as well. If you have a look at the spokes on Shimano C24s, they're maybe twice the width of a CX-Ray, and the rims are heavily reinforced around the spoke holes.

So they can get away with 20R / 16F being ridden by lumps like me, when I wouldn't go near that spoke count with conventional rims and spokes.

Are you saying I'm too much of a heffer for that hole count?

I'm totes serious.

Dunno, I don't think they'd explode but they might flex and/or start to go out of true after a while - I'm not sure they're the stiffest rims around given the quoted weight and width. E.g. CXP33s aren't available in anything under 28H, and they're deeper (and thus - probably - stiffer).

28/24 ought to be ok. I'd maybe consider 32/24 or 32/28. You could give Strada a call and see what they'd normally recommend for your weight, since they have a fair bit of experience in actually building with them - I've not tried them myself, so I'm speculating. Just wanted to point out that 'boutique'/OTP wheels are often using all sorts of tricks to achieve strength and stiffness that you can't always take advantage of if you build with conventional hubs/spokes/rims (offset rims, 2:1 spoke counts on the rear, straight pull spokes, wide bladed spokes, rim reinforcement etc. etc.).

^ Agreed - If you're keen to run 24/28 go ahead - if you're too heavy or clumsy you'll probably find you're truing them more often than perhaps you ought.
You'll certainly have no worries with 32/28 even with super fine double butted spokes. I built a pair in 2005 and have ridden tens of thousands of miles on them - lots of which were in pitch-black - I'm not heavy but make up for it in stupidity and clumsiness. They've had 7years of hammering and have never needed truing.
For me, the 100g /wheel you save is probably not worth it - but I guess that's your choice at the end of the day.

^^ Not saying you're fat, like. ;)

Going to drop Strada and email.

Seeing as I'm decided on Hubs (pretty much) and rims, I reckon they should be able to give me an idea.
I don't want to go to all this effort to build some liquorice wheels!

It's winter weight. Honest!

Got the Spooner ride-able. The wheels are temporary and it's going to get a monoplaner front brake.

looks niice, will final wheels be black as well?

no, silver.

In all the years I've been at Preston Park I don't remember that bike. It looks lovely.

I actually like the black wheels.

+1. nice ride sumo

monoplanar

You'll find more brakes for sale if you learn to spell before searching.

A yellow Pro Winner.

;)

Looks good man.

You'll find more brakes for sale if you learn to spell before searching.

You'll find more friends by not being a **total **helmet.

You'll find more brakes for sale if you learn to spell before searching.

Not cheap, you won't

Yes, it did occur to me that sellers who can't spell might not attract as much demand.

Of course, one could bypass the whole discussion by just selecting a brake for performance rather than looks, in which case there are millions of cheap dual pivot Tektros out there which comfortably out-perform any Campag Monoplanar, and many of them come ready equipped with Shimano standard pad holders making it easier to choose from competing aftermarket pad compounds.

Got the Spooner ride-able. The wheels are temporary and it's going to get a monoplaner front brake.

Nice looking bike, H.

Rebuilt the Condor, ride's a dream.

Full on velove.

Looking very nice TM. yes. keep nodding my head with pursed lips..

Here we go:
My hack bike is an old raleigh banana. I love it. It's ace.

Is it possible to get it back to having more than 1 gear? more than 6? How about 8 or 9?

More than one gear?

I am disappoint.

I have another 1 geared bicycle.
Moving the DadTaxi upto more gears would give me a turbo specific bike/a family runaround all in one go.

Gotcha.