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• #65527
AngleID all of them have sufficient tension to hold you in, ground clearance and pedal surface area. They're the same system.
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• #65528
mwahahaha, the fun begins.
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• #65529
AngleID all of them have sufficient tension to hold you in, ground clearance and pedal surface area. They're the same system.
Just because they're the same system, does not make them equal.
Different materials used, different dimensions (XS and ROC are different shapes), and even slight variations can add up to a big difference.
Thanks anyway Miro_o, I have now ordered a set of Atac XS pedals for only £70, so should be sorted. -
• #65530
Good choice. Practice with them. I fell over in the middle of Old Kent Road still clipped in. Luckily at a traffic light. Still embarrassing.
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• #65531
Just because they're the same system, does not make them equal.
Of course not.
+1 about the cleats, they're brass so only a bit stiff to get to release for the first few rides. Not as bad as when I'd used my Keos on the track, hadn't wound them back before putting them back on the road bike so they were practically impossible to get out of. I ended up sat on the bonnet of a Merc still clipped in with both feet.
/csb
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• #65532
^^
gave it plenty of time on my first fixed bike, didn't like it.
1 brake fixed > 2 brake fixed
this isn't the place for this discussion.
Riding fixed is wayyy better with some decent toe clips and/or straps...
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• #65533
I fit restraps around that time. that bike died like a year ago. so it's immaterial. I'm all about spd's now.
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• #65534
Sexually Preferred Diseases?
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• #65535
sexy parrot dvds. i get them off balki
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• #65536
Good choice. Practice with them. I fell over in the middle of Old Kent Road still clipped in. Luckily at a traffic light. Still embarrassing.
Of course not.
+1 about the cleats, they're brass so only a bit stiff to get to release for the first few rides. Not as bad as when I'd used my Keos on the track, hadn't wound them back before putting them back on the road bike so they were practically impossible to get out of. I ended up sat on the bonnet of a Merc still clipped in with both feet.
/csb
Will remember that. Know the first time I used SPDs was er, interesting.
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• #65537
I don't think it's an arbitrary choice....
You might think that, but you are wrong
It's not an arbitary choice,
Yes it is.
If you adjust gear ratio at the same time as you adjust crank length to maintain the same gain ratio, crank length selection becomes arbitrary over quite a large range, far larger than the range offered on mainstream commercial product in adult sizes. Some very small adults, or people with range of movement problems, need shorter cranks but nobody needs cranks longer than 175. They might select them based on preferred cadence, and Zinn might keep telling them they need them because he manufactures long cranks, but all the good science* on the matter points to crank length within a wide range having no measurable effect on overall biomechanical efficiency.
*Not that there actually is much good science, if we want studies where trained cyclists well adapted to crank configuration pedal for realistic durations.
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• #65538
Just got my self some spd-sl's, tried them for the first time yesterday, making sure i unclip well before i stop, feels so weird to ride with, but i like it
tempted to put them on my Dolan, but it could go terribly wrong?
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• #65539
How?
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• #65540
This thread is like a goldfish bowl at the moment. There's always talk of crank arm length but recently it feels like we're going over the same ground on a daily basis!
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• #65541
^ Stop reading the forum so much then you nonce.
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• #65542
Ready for some fun at Tempelhof when I have some time...
...and maybe even a TT when I get back to the UK
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• #65543
Arrr bugger, cranks were all messed up, have to wait till monday to ride now, but looking pretty i recon?
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• #65544
Saddle to bar drop is reminiscent of PITANGO bikes ;)
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• #65545
Hmmmm(quick google)
yeah your not wrong, its unfortunate that since putting the wheels on i stand over the crossbar but only with my shoes on! so the saddle is probly about right one the crank is on?, I'm also now wondering if the pearl 9 is a bit long and some risers would not be a bad move but i had these flats so i'll give them a go first.
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• #65546
I so very nearly pointed out the NDS fail, then realised there isn't one...
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• #65547
Nds?
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• #65548
Sorry, non-driveside.
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• #65549
What saddle to bar drop?
(:
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• #65550
haha, ok, yeah quite a big fail, all turned up fitted it, did not line up with the rear cog and even with the chain ring on the inside it would need a narrower BB, so i'm being sent out another as there seems to be some trouble with the manufacturer?
see now the whole Saddle to bar drop thing, i was always shown that the saddle and headset should be the same, now i see on here its obviously changed since the dark ages, but as i say, the frame is mabie to big for me then, but wont know till the crank is on?
Restraps and Easton flat boys FTW!
www.restrap.co.uk