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• #40877
Both assumptions are at the outer edges of the normal envelope for road race frames. To make it enjoyable to ride, you should probably aim for >50mm.
Theres plenty of people riding on bikes with a 75 deg headtube and a standard road bike fork with 43 mm rake. I even do that myself. To a comparison that gives a trail of about 45mm. Seems fine to me. Quite lively yes but no where near unrideble. Do you really think less than 50mm is that bad?
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• #40878
Thank you.
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• #40879
no, thank you
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• #40880
No. Thank you!
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• #40881
I'm not the one building it, but I'll be the one who gets to ride it.
;)
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• #40882
Nelson getting some upgrades:
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• #40883
I'm not the one building it, but I'll be the one who gets to ride it.
;)
that looks like its going to be all kinda porn
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• #40884
Now with risers, grips, saddle and a 22T cog. Soon chain and brakes.
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• #40885
http://www.donhoubicycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/sparky_seat_cluster.jpg
http://www.donhoubicycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/sparky_bb.jpgI'm not the one building it, but I'll be the one who gets to ride it.
;)
What's the tubing?
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• #40886
^^^Those new Ellipse decals are gash..
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• #40887
It was to both of you, but yeah I should have multi quoted, sorry.
well thanks for your none complement :)
my excuse is being tired for not getting it
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• #40888
^^^Those new Ellipse decals are gash..
+1
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• #40889
Lovely! What tyres are those?
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• #40890
^^^Three of those new Ellipse decals on one rim are gash..
ftfy.
Solution, peel two sets off.
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• #40891
sorry i think i missed a bit - this bike looks 100% better than it did before! what happend in the end?
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• #40892
Do you really think less than 50mm is that bad?
It's going to depend on your weight distribution and bar/stem set up. The near-universal consensus of 73°-74° and 40-43mm fork offset on modern road and timetrial bikes, with track bikes deviating only in having a shorter offset to give more trail, indicates that a happy medium has been settled upon after many years of experimentation. It's perfectly feasible to ride a bike with no trail at all, it's just that you might enjoy it more if you stick to what has been proven to work best. As I said in my first comment, read a lot before cutting any metal, so you at least know what you're letting yourself in for if you decide to go your own way. Eric Buell makes motorcycles with steering geometry which some conservative commentators thought (wrongly) would be a death trap on road bikes, so it's possible to buck the trend without dying.
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• #40893
^ needs ergo/road levers
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• #40894
^^^Those new Ellipse decals are gash..
I like them better than the old ones.
Also, that build is a save after the way the bike first appeared here.
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• #40895
got some new pedals for my guerciotti conversion, i reeeeally like them so i thought post them up, maybe others can try them to...
mks sylvan touring pedals and some cheep ect clips that are actually really comfy, best pedals i have tried so far! not the prettiest set up but it works great for me just like the bike they are on
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• #40896
Good choice, I used to run the exact same thing before going clipless (abiet double clip rather than single) and they were very comfortable despite how ugly they look.
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• #40897
i tried track sylvans and gr-9s, didnt like either that much, best were cheap wellgo's but they were to grippy for vans
When i took them home i fitted my double straps and used a bit of eletric tape to hold it in place, havent rode them yet but they feel real snug
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• #40898
vs:
it's quite the same lettering, only in white.. Guess it shouts more in white.. Liked the tone in tone of the old Ellipses.. Plus shame they dropped the old logo, since that is uh, an ellipse. ;)
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• #40899
What's the tubing?
I'll post all the details when I put up the finished pics.
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• #40900
It's going to depend on your weight distribution and bar/stem set up. The near-universal consensus of 73°-74° and 40-43mm fork offset on modern road and timetrial bikes, with track bikes deviating only in having a shorter offset to give more trail, indicates that a happy medium has been settled upon after many years of experimentation.
Alright then. Any literature you think I should look into?
And also, should I obt for even shorter rake?
Like a tangled fishing net.