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  • whoop, the name sound pretty welsh! ah well still need to find out who made this frame, annoying that they drilled the BB a bit to save weight.

    bb shell drilling is fairly common. they are drain holes, not weight savers.

    and powdercoating old frames is quite boring. scratches give a frame character.

    I've already had this conversation in this thread: http://www.londonfgss.com/thread6261-188.html#post689012

  • @ed, you should leave that bike alone, it looks lovely as it is. i know it's leonie's, but to be honest the top tube is too long for her, she is little and needs a small 48x48.

  • New project... or actually it's almost finished... :)

    It's a tandem "LongJohn" cargobike..

    It actually rides rather well, but we need to make a reinforcement in the front as the front wheel + front part of the frame has a tendency to vibrate quite a lot.. Also of cause we need to make the box for the cargo... Also handoperated brakes + the current backpedal would be nice for safety.

    edit:
    btw, all of the 3 bikes used to build this are SHIT dumpstered supermarked-bikes.. and I know the chain is slack.. ;)
    notice the dual minievo locks.. ;)

  • Needs a powdercoat.

  • +1
    i'd really love to see that powdercoated

  • bb shell drilling is fairly common. they are drain holes, not weight savers.

    and powdercoating old frames is quite boring. scratches give a frame character.

    I've already had this conversation in this thread: http://www.londonfgss.com/thread6261-188.html#post689012

    If you do the maths in terms of worth-it-or-not, PCing comes as an economical way to protect, after well prepared from rust, any frame which paint job just simply cannot be saved (rust). It´s never IMHO, a matter to generalise to all the bikes we see here going to armourtex. The reality of prices is that for £50 you get a frame and forks PCed whereas enamel, customs paints, customs paint jobs go around £100+.... I mean, ok about being true to the origins of the builder, but these prices are prohibitive (East London prices as for the last year or so.. to me) The point is to get close to what you had, or not, but be true and fair to the bit of steel beteween your legs. We´re fucking throwing arguments related to personal taste in the end of the day, but it´s more about common sense. I wouldn´t keep my old frame all rusty because of it´s radness or character if that would shorten it´s life.

  • @ed, you should leave that bike alone, it looks lovely as it is. i know it's leonie's, but to be honest the top tube is too long for her, she is little and needs a small 48x48.

    her current Raleigh is a 50x55cm, it's a little big for her but not too big, her stem on that is 60mm to compensate.

    while 48.5x54 isn't much difference in top tube length it still fit her better than her original bike.

    bb shell drilling is fairly common. they are drain holes, not weight savers.

    Here's the thing about it - there's no drain holes, hence the original assumption that it was to save weight.

    and powdercoating old frames is quite boring. scratches give a frame character.

    moot, I rather have the frame protected from the elements without needing to look after it much.

  • No one complain when Alex powdercoated his Raleigh track frame;

    alex powdercoated as an attempt to restore it to its former raleigh glory (tho maybe powdercoat wasn't the best choice for restoring it, nor was it an original colour either). he had the front brake whole filled in, which took some paint off. the original paint was nothing fancy, so after all was done he was only adding to it

  • my peugeot in tubular configuration

  • Yay - finished my Somec. Pics later....just going to take it for a quick test spin.

  • If you do the maths in terms of worth-it-or-not, PCing comes as an economical way to protect, after well prepared from rust, any frame which paint job just simply cannot be saved (rust). It´s never IMHO, a matter to generalise to all the bikes we see here going to armourtex. The reality of prices is that for £50 you get a frame and forks PCed whereas enamel, customs paints, customs paint jobs go around £100+.... I mean, ok about being true to the origins of the builder, but these prices are prohibitive (East London prices as for the last year or so.. to me) The point is to get close to what you had, or not, but be true and fair to the bit of steel beteween your legs. We´re fucking throwing arguments related to personal taste in the end of the day, but it´s more about common sense. I wouldn´t keep my old frame all rusty because of it´s radness or character if that would shorten it´s life.

    you should read my earlier posts on the subject that I linked to (example pictures included). rust can be easily dissolved in a oxalic bath. remove 99% of the rust and preserve the original aesthetics of the frame at a cost of next to nothing -- win-win solution. Add an inexpensive can of framesaver, and rust will no longer be an issue -- unless, of course, the rust has eaten through and compromised the tubes. but if that's the case, the frame should not even be ridden on whatsoever (unless it can be saved by a framebuilder).

  • glockart, I am totality vibing that pug. a bit mish mashed, but looks practical and ridable.

  • OK, so where do I get this oxalic acid and framesaver? Because I've been considering powdercoating the arse of my currently rusty (aka thief deterrent) frame, but it'd be nice not to lose the original graphics.

  • i have had this bike for a while, put straight bars on today to try them out.

  • Suddenly i wanna ride with tubs...

  • you should read my earlier posts on the subject that I linked to (example pictures included). rust can be easily dissolved in a oxalic bath. remove 99% of the rust and preserve the original aesthetics of the frame at a cost of next to nothing -- win-win solution. Add an inexpensive can of framesaver, and rust will no longer be an issue -- unless, of course, the rust has eaten through and compromised the tubes. but if that's the case, the frame should not even be ridden on whatsoever (unless it can be saved by a framebuilder).

    I did read them, went really on with the all thing, links an all, til the minute I realize that oxalic bath (acid), is in fact the same as WOOD BLEACH, which is among one of the most pollutant and dangerous to handle DIY substances, on the market. Considering this would be done by one of us at home: "oxalic acid is very environmentally hazardous. please dispose of it properly. do internet research and figure out where you would take it after you do this, do not just leave it curbside.".. therefore, could have it´s goods but damn right has is cons, for a more homie solution: "I use mostly vinegar for a few reasons:
    -it does the exact same thing as oxalic acid, just takes a bit longer
    -5% diluted vinegar is less toxic to work with (right?)
    -It's cheap in small quantities (obviously you would have to buy a whole lot to fill a kiddie pool, and
    that would be expensive.)"
    .
    And still, even if u do succeed in removing the rust, whats the point on having a chipped frame that within months (unless re-clearcoated), will present the same symptoms?
    I have my thing as well with the finish that PCing gives to a frame, but I don´t have anything against re-painting one, bringing it back to life.

  • Pc - powder coating right? Not personal computer? :P

  • pukes (on)..... whatever

  • pukes (on)..... whatever
    Thats a definate win!

  • New, but with a post per day ratio rivaling hippy...
    Impressive stats there. ;)

    I tapped out weeks ago.. I got interest rates to masturbate over now..

  • Yeah another one. Guess what's gonna happen to this one though?

  • Out-salt me.. go on..

  • are on the nosegay again?

  • And in English that would mean??

  • cocaine

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