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  • Distance selling applies still.

    https://www.gov.uk/online-and-distance-selling-for-businesses

    @hollow__legs check if there's a return policy on the invoice/receipt they sent you, otherwise you'll have 12 months to return it.

  • you'll have 12 months to return it.

    Only if there's something wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with it unless he said at the time of ordering that it had to be compatible with the CK headset. If there's nothing wrong with it, he has to have told them he doesn't want it within 14 days of receiving it.

  • Nothing wrong with the levers, they were designed for aero routing.
    I guess the hole on top is misleading, Campagnolo just kept using previous gen. lever bodies/hoods when they made the switch. And yes, L/R levers were identical.

  • If there's nothing wrong with it, he has to have told them he doesn't want it within 14 days of receiving it.

    If he was told as such, hence I asked him to check the fine prints.

    Right to cancel

    There are different rules for downloads and streaming services.

    You must tell the customer they can cancel their order up to 14 days after their order is delivered. They don’t need to give a reason for cancelling.

    If you don’t tell the customer about their right to cancel, they can cancel at any time in the next 12 months. If you tell them about the right to cancel during these 12 months, they have 14 days to cancel from when you told them.

  • That makes perfect sense now you've said it.

    Should have paid more attention to the photos when reading about the brake levers.

  • @gbj_tester @coventry_eagle I appreciate the help from you both.

    After a lot of emailing, @Cupcakes extensive headset “standards” knowledge and the help of a local bike shop, I have worked out that a Cane Creek should fit the bill.

    For reference, integrated crown races with a 36 degree angle are not compatible with Hope, Chris King, Phil, White Industries.

    Perhaps there is a sound engineering/business reason behind Salsas choice of crown race, but from a customer perspective this is mildly confusing, especially when headset manufacturers don’t list the bearing angles on their websites.

    Anyway, I can build the bike, life goes on, the world continues to spin etc.

  • Perhaps there is a sound engineering/business reason behind Salsas choice of crown race

    There is. Most headset bearings have a 36° chamfer on the inner race as that's the TH/FSA and Cane Creek way. That boutique manufacturers have chosen to go their own way is their business.

  • Most headset bearings have a 36° chamfer on the inner race as that's the TH/FSA and Cane Creek way.

    Ugh, really? I have a Cane Creek 40 IS52 lower for which it has been impossible for me to determine the chamfer angle. It’s for an OPEN U-TURN fork with a 45 degree integrated crown race, unlikely to work then?

  • No "a Cane Creek 40 is all the headset you'll ever need" while on the subject?

  • As I said, from a customer perspective this is confusing.

  • Cane Creek do two different angles, best check their website.

  • from a customer perspective this is confusing

    As far as the component industry is concerned, you are not an important customer, bike assemblers are. If you ordered a thousand forks, you could choose the chamfer angle for yourself 🙂

  • I have a Cane Creek 40 IS52 lower for which it has been impossible for me to determine the chamfer angle.

    If you already have it, you can measure the angle. It's only going to be a choice of two, so if the corner of a piece of paper fits with line contact on both sides its 45° and if it doesn't then it's 36° 🙂

  • Thankfully it wasn't you who answered any of my customer support queries 🙂

  • so if the corner of a piece of paper fits with line contact on both sides its 45°

    Clever, couldn't figure out a way to measure it and the model number gave no definite answer. Thanks!

  • Perhaps there is a sound engineering/business reason

    The business reason for 36°/45° is market share, as previously stated.

    The engineering reason I'm not sure about, but it may be that in the case of a 1⅛ bearing with 5/32" balls or a 1" bearing with 1/8" balls, the normal reaction between balls and races is more or less orthogonal to the mounting cone when the tangential contacts intersect at centre of rotation.

    In that case, the business reason for 45°/45° is fuck engineering, the accounts department only wants to buy one angle block


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  • Did something unfashionable and really like it.

    Put my old compact back on to give 34-50 x 11-40

    Had been running 44 x 11-40 but was finding it a bit limited. Gear range is massive now and jumps between gears seem ok.


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  • Who signed off on the new decals on the Zipp 303 S? Not only are they way worse than the old ones, they’re not symmetrical. Front decal to the right of the valve and rear to the left. Not sure I’m going to be able to get over this

  • Did something unfashionable

    Double super wide range is gonna be the 2021 trend.

    Looking good! A nice polished traditional looking crankset would look extra good in my opinion.

  • Oh really? Ahead of the curve for once. I’ve got a 4600 tiagra compact somewhere in the garage which I was planning to use but couldn’t find - WI or something similar would be lovely but probably wasted on this.

    Can’t decide whether to get the frame painted/powdered (sparkly grey or hammered) lots of memories in that paint though despite never actually liking it.

  • I like the blue, though not a massive fan of the graphics. If you respray, pls no grey. I get what you mean about memories.

  • Graphics were done in a hurry to hide the awful Genesis branding beneath 😂 maybe get some new ones done now, it’s been 5 years. The tape stripes on the TT was to cover some fresh damage.

  • Love that paint, Gaston. Seems to be in really good condition as well?

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