Brooks

as a side note, from what i've seen, swallows tend to have a much shorter life-span than any other brooks, maybe it's the leather they use, but they stretch out really quickly, then you come to the end of the bolt, and they're done.

The swallow is longer than the swift, perhaps that why it have a shorter life span? (the stretching of the leather part).

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I like Team Pros. They're tough as old boots though. Possibly tougher.

worth a try, people have been doing that for years;

Oh god every time I see a split one I think I'm gonna try it. Then I forget about it.

skully - been thinking about trying it, know where i might find a nice bit of leather?

B17 (seem to be about £50-£60 in shops) + chop, pay loads less.

+1

i have 2 and my favourite one is cut to look like a swift

i've got an old wrights with a hole (as it a split that I cut round to stop more splitting) in the top. promised to sell to somebody, but I could point them in your direction when they do. You could sculpt it into a key hole shape.

skully - been thinking about trying it, know where i might find a nice bit of leather?

Like thonging to tie up? I gather there's a good leather supplier on Greatorex Street, called Alma Leather. Let me know how you get on.

I got to stamp one for you, I missed you last week at late polo, sorry.

+1

i have 2 and my favourite one is cut to look like a swift

D'you do the swifty one yourself Crane? I'd like to see it.

Dougie I want to do one myself. Bit scared though.

nah its that ratty old black one i showed you, i just tied the bottom together with a shoelace, bcause the honey one squeeks all the time.

i think i need to tighten that little nut at the front

try not to tighten it too much, there's only so much you can stretch the leather really.

I've got a B17, a B17s, a Professional S and a ladies' Finesse (the poncy Ti-railed one).

Brooks saddles are unimaginably wonderful and I'm going to be buying yet another for the penny - this time one of the huge fancy sprung ones.

nah its that ratty old black one i showed you, i just tied the bottom together with a shoelace, bcause the honey one squeeks all the time.

i think i need to tighten that little nut at the front

Have you tried to put a bit of grease on the rails? The squeaking is probably just the seat-clamp and rails not quite seeing eye to eye, rather than anything to do with the saddle itself.

Brooks saddles are unimaginably wonderful and I'm going to be buying yet another for the penny - this time one of the huge fancy sprung ones.

Go for the B67, they're a good size, very comfortable and defintely absorb the shock from the road without making it feel too springy like a pogo stick.

I've got a honey swift titanium, a black swift titanium (oops that one has been stolen) and a white swallow in the box. Just though I'd say that...white swallow in a box. Skully I seem to keep missing you on all the rides . (I'm Dave of Dave and Bruno)

I have a 2nd hand Swift that I just can't seem to get comfy on. I'm perservering with it, but so far not that happy. I also have a green Ti Swallow (stupidly expensive present from my wife) at home which is a thing of beauty but I refuse to use in London for fear of it being stolen. Instead it's going to go on my 'cross bike for road use (definitely not in the mud!).

If I buy another Brooks I'll just got for a standard B17.

...and a white swallow in the box. Just though I'd say that...white swallow in a box.

give it to me!!!!

I also have a green Ti Swallow (stupidly expensive present from my wife) at home which is a thing of beauty but I refuse to use in London for fear of it being stolen. Instead it's going to go on my 'cross bike for road use (definitely not in the mud!).

there are many precaution to prevent it from getting stolen, the theft take anything with a Brooks logos regardless of the type really, search 'ball bearing', we have a topic about that not long ago.

@ adamM - If your swift is Brown I'd be happy to take it off your hands

btw - I have a Honey B17 Standard. Only a little scuffed...

there are many precaution to prevent it from getting stolen, the theft take anything with a Brooks logos regardless of the type really, search 'ball bearing', we have a topic about that not long ago.

I am working on something to solve th stolen brooks thing but I will only share it face to face with members I know or trust. One I have finished I'll let you know...

Have you tried to put a bit of grease on the rails? The squeaking is probably just the seat-clamp and rails not quite seeing eye to eye, rather than anything to do with the saddle itself.

Def the nut. I had the same issues with mine.

Go for the B67, they're a good size, very comfortable and defintely absorb the shock from the road without making it feel too springy like a pogo stick.

That's the one I was thinking of - in black. The ones with springs at the front look like they might make me sea-sick...

I am working on something to solve th stolen brooks thing but I will only share it face to face with members I know or trust. One I have finished I'll let you know...

honestly a simple ball bearing and glue work the best.

AdamM - if it's black (and fresh doesn't want it) i'd be interested in the swift, i've got a chopped black B17 if you fancy it

honestly a simple ball bearing and glue work the best.

Edscoble you are no fool so I will try the ball bearing. Do I take it that everyone is using pitlocks, or are you ball bearing the seat tube clamp as well?