Analog film photography and cameras

Thoughts on filmdev? Used by quite a few on here. Only 4 quid a roll and Ive only had good results from it

ok, but not as experienced as palm, and snaps is cheaper.
like all cheap places they use a roller transport machine which makes it very likely they will scratch your negs, maybe small or maybe large scratches, as the rollers accumulate dirt.
the less experienced the place, the more likely this is. and you can never reverse a neg scratch

palm, and snaps

either of those send files via wetransfer/dropbox? I struggled to find a DVD drive when I sent some E6 rolls to AG.

also their scan samples are way oversharpened, which makes them look pretty cack

not sure - best to ring and ask

snaps is cheaper

Looks like £4.30 for dev and scan to jpeg to me?

medium res colour, which most people do, is £5.80 at snaps vs. £6 or £7 at filmdev
and the black and white is also cheaper

but in general i'd always say go to palm or rapid eye/chan if you can afford it

medium res

Ahh this is where the difference comes from. Although my last 10 or so rolls have been small scans from filmdev and never had a problem with scratches or lack of quality. My pics on the last page are small scans

Genuine q: do they oversharpen all their images? Not something I know much about at all

Same here, only ever used filmdev for small scans and never had a problem.

Interested to know the reasons behind advising against Aperture, Bayeux and Metro, I'm not disagreeing as i've not used any myself but they're all fairly big players in terms of London Pro labs. Bayeux I believe is where the whole Negative feedback crew tend to get stuff dev'ed.

Would also like to Add Filmdev.co.uk to the "Best out of london for budget" they're a mail off service but as many people here will vouch the quality is great for the money!

yeah, the samples all look very oversharpened, and yours are also too sharpened, although it doesn't look as bad as their samples. you can tell them to turn it down, it should be on 0.

as regards scratches - look very closely at the emulsion, and I'd be amazed if out of 50 rolls or so you didn't have some with some scratches on it.

Aperture, Bayeux and Metro

too expensive for what you get

following on from @pdlouche in the digital thread, here's some Ektar of warsaw from the past month or so (and others of krakow)

Now I see what this talk of oversharpening is about..

That last one is Krakow isnt it? We went in 2016 and swum in that lake. Absolutely magical

^^ guilty as charged..! upping the contrast probably doesn't help either, but there's no accounting for taste ;)

^yep! was there last week for a few days,

best out of London for quality and best overall for the price - Palm Labs, Birmingham

I'm in Birmingham and use Palm Labs, and they're great. Run by a really friendly guy who cycles. Perhaps more at the pricier end for C41 compared to Filmdev for similar quality. B&W and E6 work out being competitive though as they charge the same for everything.
However Palm do dip and dunk and are more than happy to push C41 which some places can be sniffy about.

Goodbye Fuji Natura 1600, used my last couple of rolls at my wedding a week ago. I guess digital only now for low light hand held colour without flash

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I remember looking at Contax G’s way back before even the RD-1 was released, and the prices were insane. I remember there being an issue with the focus coming out of alignment easily. There was something anyway that made them less desirable, but it was ages ago now.

I also remember seeing the Nikon RF’s, and how insane their prices held.

My T2 missed a bunch of shots because of the AF, and I never sourced a fair priced later compact. I loved the little Rollei 35 but the scale focusing wasn’t ideal. I think around that time I gave in and continued with a Leica CL for quick stuff. Stupid me selling all this kit at a loss, like the now-cult lenses from the Russar 20, dual focus Summicron, to that 40mm one off the CL to...

Oh also I will definitely definitely be shifting my plate camera stuff, the 1/4 plate with additional 6x9 back etc. Once I get home I’ll get them up on the classifieds.

I think I have a couple little MjuII zooms as well, maybe a lomo fisheye all going to waste.

These are beautiful!

I guess digital only now for low light hand held colour without flash

macodirect still has some apparently..
I guess it depends how low the light actually is, but a fast lens and Portra 800 shot at 1600 is also an option maybe?

Yea we're spoiled with the insanely high ISOs of today's digital cameras though.

Film is craaaaaazy money now!

Is it prohibitive for you guys to fill buckets with hot water and keep a thermometer handy? It’s not impossible to push c-41, and easier by yourself. If you bleach-bypass you gain a couple stops because the silver layer remains.

Yea, the high speed films are very pricey. What are you gonna do.

I pay €2.50 for C41 developing though / seriously can't be assed to do it at home.

macodirect still has some apparently..

I guess it depends how low the light actually is, but a fast lens and Portra 800 shot at 1600 is also an option maybe?

Yea we're spoiled with the insanely high ISOs of today's digital cameras though.

That's not a bad price I guess, might be tempted if shipping to the UK is reasonable. I was paying £10 a roll including shipping from Hong Kong or Japan for the last few I bought - has gone up to £20 a roll on ebay now.

Have experimented with pushing Portra 400 to 1600 in the past, and the results are kinda usable but you start to get colour shifts. Not as nice as the Natura 1600 anyway.
Might try pushing the Lomo (re-branded Kodak) 800 one stop to 1600 to see what that's like - it's relatively cheap. Or just try underexposing one stop when I need it as most C41 can take one stop of under exposure ?

damn, thats cheap

I'm sure you'll get usable results.