Anti-Puncture Tyres At-a-glance

What about the Bontrager hardcase then? I have nothing else to offer.

I like heavy tyres and I cannot lie etc.

Got told in the LBS this weekend that Bonty have discontinued the Racelite Hardcase.
Shame. I liked them.

So I had to get a pair of gatorskins instead.
They roll noticabley faster but defo have less grip.
As for the puncture protection. We'll see

Usual suspects for 'summer training/do-it-all' tyre: Michelin Pro 3 Race, Vredestein Fortezza Tricomp, Schwalbe Durano (I think that's what they're called now), Vittoria Rubino Pro, Conti GP4000S, Hutchinson somethingorother, etc, etc.

Blah blah 200-250g, blah blah ~120tpi, blah blah £20-25, blah blah blah.

If you liked the Michelins, why not stick with them? That's how I feel about Vred Tricomps.

What about the Bontrager hardcase then? I have nothing else to offer.

I like heavy tyres and I cannot lie etc.

330g?!

Yeah sorry it's a roadie douche bag question :)

Usual suspects for 'summer training/do-it-all' tyre: Michelin Pro 3 Race, Vredestein Fortezza Tricomp, Schwalbe Durano (I think that's what they're called now), Vittoria Rubino Pro, Conti GP4000S, Hutchinson somethingorother, etc, etc.

Blah blah 200-250g, blah blah ~120tpi, blah blah £20-25, blah blah blah.

If you liked the Michelins, why not stick with them? That's how I feel about Vred Tricomps.

They came on the bike rather than me choosing them, and I've not ridden them much. I think I just don't trust Contis (#hippy) so I might give the Vredestein's a go.

Do you use the quattro versions? Bit confused about the difference between Vredestein Fortezza Tricomp and Vredestein Fortezza Quattro Tricomp...

Dunno - Quattros didn't exist when I'd already become a habitual Tricomp user. The regular Fortezza was good too, but not sure if that's still available.

If you're buying a pair, Ribble's almost always the cheapest place.

Seem to be an all season version, although I can't figure out the exact difference.

Hmm, yes, £19.80, amazing, sadly they're all out.

Conti grand prix 4 season sound right up your street.

Well, it seems not Ed. I've been reading up, excellent article here by the guy who measures the rolling resistance of tyres on biketechreview.com

Tires and wheels for timed cycling events

The bit on tyre rolling resistance is interesting. The Coefficient of Rolling Resistance (CRR) data at the end are out of date, but I've just had a look at the 2010 data. Here are some examples (lower is better):

.00384 Conti GP4000 Black Chilli
.00371 Conti GP 4 seasons
.00360 Fortezza Tricomp
.00334 Maxxis Hors Catagorie
.00313 GP4000S
.00250 Vittoria Open Corsa Evo 320tpi CX

So although the Fortezza Tricomp beats the 4 seasons, there isn't much in it.

The data suggest that higher tpi equals lower rolling resistance and higher psi equals lower rolling resistance, which is good for the Tricomps because they go up to 160psi. Of course 160psi might not be comfy on rough roads, but apparently the Tricomps are still comfy even at higher than normal pressure.

Although however hard you pump up a Tricomp, I don't think you're going to get it down to a CRR of .00250

They are pricey though! And light, so puncture protection could be an issue.

My brain hurts.

To be honest, it's something that you shouldn't need to worry about.

get a good grippy tyres, ride it, and ride it hard.

Let put it this way, will you notice a difference? I mean will it be quite obvious or very minimal?

you calling him fat?

Have you seen him? he practically weight as much as a chicken.

put a stick up him and he'll be a chicken on a stick for the fatties to eat.

ha ha!

That's the thing Ed, I wouldn't have thought so, but I can between my Refuse and the Michelin Race 2s currently on the Colnago.

well the current ones are blue, so they have to go.

yeah they have to be black. Or maybe black with a red stripe. This complicates things further ;)

just black

just black

Racist

FWIW I just bought a Maxxis Refuse and it's facking great

Fox, are they both on the same tyres pressure? is one is designed for a higher psi than the other? is the refuse gripper? etc.

and I don't remember seeing your Colnago, any chance you have a photo of it?

welcome to the 'Nago club by the way.

Have you seen him? he practically weight as much as a chicken.

put a stick up him and he'll be a chicken on a stick for the fatties to eat.

You rang?

...Vredestein Fortezza Tricomp...

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durano 145 psi, i think this thread is also going in circles

durano 145 psi, i think this thread is also going in circles

85-145psi So, a pretty wide range of useable tyre pressures. And a real challenge for those with the smaller mini-pumps.

i think this thread is also going in circles

+100000000000000

I think it is clear what the 6-8 best tires are. they difference between them is minimal.
just choose one