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lovely williams (?) cottered chainset there. this is the one you bought on the may bank holiday is it not?

Sorry I should have said. I took my aero wheel from my geared bike and stuck it on the front.

PJ cheers, the frame is the bank holiday purchase. It's a right odd bike that's for sure, looking to get something else that I'm not scared to chain to a lampost as well.

i chain the bob jackson up, and the peugeot. i use an abus chain and a kyrptonite mini-D.

it looks like it's got big holdsworth track ends and those uber (pencil) thin reynolds seat stays that they no-one makes anymore.

you were born 40 years too late, pj :)

hmm, are those track ends a good sign of a bike being a holdsworth? I've got a frame with identical track ends sitting next to me right now - it'd be good if it was a holdsworth.

And odd angles and a downward sloping TT

Tighter than a nuns chuff with tubs on it.

It's the scratching of the nice 50 year old paint that I worry about. Got the kypto fahgeddaboutit lock so not too worried there.

I'm thinking about building up an IRO or something for commuter action and the like.

see here dale's ex has got similar rear triangle. so to speak.
holdsworth track ends were also used on other frames.

it's a very nice wheel

Not just a nice wheel.

It's like chips n mao, shouldn't work but does.

They look like Condor track ends to me, hard to see from the pic tho'... Are they like these (off a Hurlow track frame)?

I'm after a pair for a resto job, I'm having to make do with some 60s Nervex jobbies I found...

they're not slotted you goose.

How can you see they're not slotted from the pic Ant put up?!?
Cheeky fecker! ;p

if you managed to get up off your prolapsed back you'd be able to see clear as day that there ain't no slots there.

Now that I have tottered a bit closer to the screen and adjusted my varifocals, I think I might be able to see a mudguard eyelet (probably just a chain link tho') and a reflection on a... Slotted Condor track end! :P
@ Ant: Please put me out of my misery, close-up pic please...

lookie lookie you raspberry ripple.

actually, here's another mills with ye olde slots...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-F-Mills-Track-Frame-Nervex-531-fixed-pista_W0QQitemZ180255355044QQihZ008QQcategoryZ22679QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

hmmm well the frame I have next to me has the same forks (I think, hard to tell) and the same track ends, but different lugs and different seatstays. And different geometry.

Also it has no markings on it anywhere i can see, but it does have a dreadful finish.

pics, alex, pics. where did you get it and what is it?

eh it's not mine, its my flatmates. He got it from roberto a while ago. It looks like shit at the moment, and my flatmate has got cold feet all of a sudden and decided he wants to sell it. Very much doubt he'll get anywhere near what he paid for it, but i think figuring out what it actually is might help.

Check the track ends and steerer tube for a serial number... Then you can ask the old fellas on Classic Rendezvous, they might help...

Sorry fellas was out on the booze.

Nervex lugs unknown track ends with eyelets. Which are of no use whatsoever with sprints on so it might have had 27s on at some point.

It's a shame the rear wheel from this set is 130mm spacing otherwise I would have taken proper pics with them on both ends.

so, no slots then?

I don't know what slotted means. However they are not like the condor ones posted they are flat. When I am sober I will try to work out an answer.

that's the right answer.

You see that Teenslain? READ IT AND WEEP. and then crawl back under the duvet nursing your poorly back and wounded pride.

NO SLOTS HERE. SLOTS GO HOME.

holdsworth ends:

Thems the ones.