Is anyone on lfgss from London?

And London = zones 1-4. Zone 5, Croydon, Slough, London borough of Kent, etc don't count.

Utter tosh.

Inclusivity is cooler than exclusivity, I'd accept anywhere inside the M25 as Greater London.

From Atlanta but have lived in Hackney/Tower Hamlets for the past 6 years...

^^^nice map

i voted for all, and correctly to not just to piss around

dont live in london either but my girl does so im there a lot right now. i ride mostly fixed, have a touring bike that doesnt get used, a mountain bike that doesnt get used (except yesterday and it wasnt fun), a flatland bike that doesnt get used etc. on an average week my riding is 100%fixed. on and im from Bristol.

Born in HK, (to londoner/palestinian parents), moved to london at 2, left at 7 to USA, came back aged 11, lived in london, left to oxford, ride geared and fixed.
So yes to all the poll questions, woop!

Born in Hammersmith and spent most of the next 30 years in SW6 save for a sojourn to Bristol to educate myself, done everything from bmx to downhill to couriering on 2 wheels, and spent most of this century riding SS or Fixed . . still ride like a Muppet though and can be regularly found getting in a tangle on me langster down the embankment.

Seems to me that everyone from Birmingham down to Portsmouth speaks with a cockney twang these days, and most real Londoners have migrated outwards as the hipsters and yuppies have colonized the center . . . i'm with VB on the M25 as the boundary . . though staines and egham dont make it in

Utter tosh.

• Inclusivity is cooler than exclusivity*,
  
  

ok, fine, and agreed on the inclusivity thing - see my last post, I wasn't trying to get all "you have to be born in london to be a londoner"

I'd accept anywhere inside the M25 as Greater London.

...seriously, Staines? Abbots Langley*? Cobham? the point is that soo many members on the forum seem to be from everywhere but London... mebbe I'm just having a moment...

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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Charing+Cross,+London+SW1A,+United+Kingdom&daddr=abbots+langley&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=46.762473,-41.701268&sspn=32.678777,96.328125&ie=UTF8&ll=51.601386,-0.208054&spn=0.243102,0.752563&z=11

I'd accept anywhere inside the M25 as Greater London.

But that would include places like Swanley and Dartford, where they sit on their porches playing banjos, throw rocks and the moon etc.

If you are in London, you have a London postcode (N, NW, SW, SE, W, WC, E and EC )

if you don't have a post code similar to the list above you're not allowed in.

Born N9..lived EN2, SE1, E8, N4 ever since. Don't intend to leave.

As far as bike go, Used to freeride and dirt jump until i mover SE1 where heavy hard tails did nothing for me and i soon converted to ss, 2weeks late fixed, enjoyed it ever since. Although when ever i come back out north and get the hard tail out i can't do shit cause my upper body strenths gone to pot. oh well.

I don't live in London by your measure? I'm in Zone 3! Maybe I should re-define the forum... I have other domain names.

Utter tosh.

Inclusivity is cooler than exclusivity, I'd accept anywhere inside the M25 as Greater London.

What nonsense.

Anywhere north of the North Circ, west of Edgware Road, east of the Lea, and south of the River is NOT LONDON!

Faux-londonengers - dropping the glottal stops won't fool me. I can smell the suburbs on you.

I don't care where you were born .

I'm gonna say anyway! (that's London attitude for you)

Born, London (Saarf Laarndan)
Lived, Saarf and East

Now living in Amsterdam!

As my bike has a Flip Flop hub, I am currently applicable to the FGSS parts of LFGSS. Four out of five ain't bad!

If you are in London, you have a London postcode (N, NW, SW, SE, W, WC, E and EC )

But that shows a lack of knowledge of london history and the redivision on London boundaries in the fifties (when the urge to live in suburbia was the inverse of our current reurbanisation).

I don't live in London by your measure? I'm in Zone 3! Maybe I should re-define the forum... I have other domain names.

oops

@VB: isn't zone 3 inside zones 1-4?

The faux-Londoner argument.

1. = City of London. The only true London stemming from time immemorial as the one and only London.
   
   

Everything that isn't touching the outer border of Greater London (as it's now known) are the first generation faux-Londoners. Those graced by the General Post Office post code system with a N, NW, SW, SE, W, WC, E and EC post code.

Such is life with the faux-Londoners, that now they have had less than 100 years of faux-status that they seek to not permit the dilution of their status that comes from the growth of London into the full map below. Hence statements like:

Anywhere north of the North Circ, west of Edgware Road, east of the Lea, and south of the River is NOT LONDON!

Even though we've already had debates in the past on the London Ring Roads plans of the 1950's and 1960's and what is currently known as the North and South Circular roads were always firmly within Greater London... but way outside of the one true London, the City of London.

The third view is that the whole map is London. And it stretches down to Croydon, and up to Enfield, from Hillingdon (and Heathrow) in the West and out to the tip of Havering in the East.

Whilst this is the legal entity that is Greater London, the faux-Londoners of the non-border boroughs choose to inflate their heritage by dismissing all of these. For surely if there are less boroughs then the status is worth more!

• City of London
  
• City of Westminster
  
• Kensington and Chelsea
  
• Hammersmith and Fulham
  
• Wandsworth
  
• Lambeth
  
• Southwark
  
• Tower Hamlets
  
• Hackney
  
• Islington
  
• Camden
  
• Brent
  
• Ealing
  
• Hounslow
  
• Richmond
  
• Kingston
  
• Merton
  
• Sutton
  
• Croydon
  
• Bromley
  
• Lewisham
  
• Greenwich
  
• Bexley
  
• Havering
  
• Barking and Dagenham
  
• Redbridge
  
• Newham
  
• Waltham Forest
  
• Haringey
  
• Enfield
  
• Barnet
  
• Harrow
  
• Hillingdon
  
  

I still go for the, if it's inside the M25 you live in London. And if you can find your way about the tube and religiously avoid tourist locations then you're a Londoner.

I don't really buy into stupid post-code status, or the unreasonable "Nth generation born and bred" argument. I'd class you as a Londoner if you've been here a short time but already have acquired a python-esque humour and a dark cynicism.

The faux-Londoner argument.

1. = City of London. The only true London stemming from time immemorial as the one and only London.
   
   
   

Incorrect. After the Roman city of Londonium was abandoned in the 5th C, the Anglo Saxons established a settlement called Lundenwic to the west, roughly where Aldwych is now.

Utter tosh.

Inclusivity is cooler than exclusivity, I'd accept anywhere inside the M25 as Greater London.
+1.

Given that I can (and did) vote in the mayoral elections then I'd suggest I do actually live in London.

+1.

Given that I can (and did) vote in the mayoral elections then I'd suggest I do actually live in London.

We have a winner!

Right, I'm off to sit in the bath, with the windows open and try to re-read this

Grew up in Surrey, living in Japan now.. and i dont even have a bike! (yet, Fuji arrives at the weekend)..... so not london, or even england, and no ss/f or gears....
hmmmmmmmmmm, maybe im on the wrong forum..

I'm in London?!?!?! No wonder the weather's been shit!

I'm sure the ticket said Lisbon...

Seriously, I agree that the M25 pretty much delineates the boundaries of London. Bromley def is still London, but Slough def is not. Likewise Staines and Harlow.

Now, who wants to know how the numbering of the inner London postcodes was devised?

i do!