Steel frames?

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i'd bone bobob for a bike like that.

^ Your sarcasm / humour detectors may require re-calibration, Sir.

Normally, I'm the most sarcastic one in the room but I'm new to this forum and fixed.
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Yes, it is a bit of an anomaly DW - I read online that 753 should only be used with lugs and by reynolds certified builders (because it is weakened by high temperatures)? Is that correct?
I should shoot an email to Arthur caygill and find out the details.

Surely it's just a sticker.. and the frame is actually made of wrought iron..

Surely it's just a sticker.. and the frame is actually made of wrought iron..
I know another bike where that trick has been played :s

I should shoot an email to Arthur caygill and find out the details.

Wasn't Arthur more of a coal than a steel man? ;-9

I know another bike where that trick has been played :s

does some ponce in overpriced clothing ride it?

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correct - silver brazing. I owned a 753 road frame in the 80's and IMO there's no way that it's possible to make 753 curved, it's way too thin. You could look at it funny and dent it. BTW, I believe that 753 is brazed in the dark (possibly not in the pitch black :-)) to get the temperature exactly right, or the tubing gets damaged by the heat. because it's so thin. it's thin.

^ Thanks for the info guys!
Apparently, the 753 TT tubeset has (butted) sections that are only 0.3mm thick!
I must avoid glaring at the frame from now on incase I dent it.. :-/

that is feckin scary...

..but true. +1 on the 0.3mm thickness.

in fact often the paint is thicker than the tubing ... problem with 753 is that the frames don't last as a result - the first sign of corrosion farks up the whole frame. I dont remember the actual weight but could pick up my whole road bike (753/dura-ace groupset) with my little finger.

an easy way to tell if it's 753 (not guaranteed, but will point you in the right direction) is to tap the tubing with the back of your fingernail. you'll hear it ping like aluminium, certainly it'll resonate for half a second more than cheap steel tubing.

I've just taken a closer look at the the pic - I've never seen lugless 753, has anyone else? Don?

i'd bone bobob for a bike like that.

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My condor SS has a 531 competition frame c. 1991 and I love it. It cost me £85 out of the local paper in need of a respray. So in answer to the OP decent steel frames are still available from eBay, loot etc. at reasonable cost especially if you buy a complete bike like I did and sell all the geary shit. Reynolds 501 is also alright, like they used on a lot of 80s Peugeots and the like. It ain't as easy to find cheap frames as it used to be but if you keep looking (and use a bit of lateral thinking) they are out there.

I bought a Cinelli with Columbus tubing for £75 the other day (admittedly with a sizeable dent in the top tube, but it rides OK) but it's way too small for me. Shows it can be done though.

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Am thinking of giving my local tip a try when i go home this weekend, have seen lots of old racers lent up against the skips there, you have to pay for stuff but its usually very cheap.

Oh, and I forgot the 80s Colnago which I rescued from my LBS last summer for £200. If I flogged the Campag groupset off that it'd be a lovely chrome-lugged Colnago frame for free (doesn't even need painting) but all of you lot told me not to do it - sacrilege on something so classic and orignal - so it lives on as a gearedspeed. Obviously, I never change out of fourth.

National Socialists used Steel bikes in the 1936 Olympics.

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