Are all 'recreational' cycling shoes worthless?

The big advantage of bib shorts is that they don't grip around your waist. So you don't end up with a bit around your waist which has been gratuitously destroyed during your ride. I have a pair of shorts that grip around my waist, and they're way less comfy than cheap bibs.

Just a comment about shoes - I bought a pair of the Specialized Sport BG SPD shoes about 6 months ago, and the cleat came off the bottom of one of them today, and seems to have stripped the thread in coming out - not sure I'd recommend them. (They're http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=33273).

I prefer shorts over bibknicks.

"pros where bibs"? tsk tsk bmmf.. captain alco pointing out captain librarian's typos :P

Pros wear whatever they're fscking given unless they win enough to command choice. Ignore what the pros do as it typically doesn't apply to normal humans.

yes drugs are bad. leave them to the pro's who know what they are doing with them.

sssasky - a good point well made. And i'm probably more of a recreational cyclist than you at the moment.

But...you'll still never seem me in a 'hybrid' shoe. Wear what you're comfortable in, I guess that goes for anything.

B.

I prefer shorts over bibknicks.

"pros where bibs"? tsk tsk bmmf.. captain alco pointing out captain librarian's typos :P

Pros wear whatever they're fscking given unless they win enough to command choice. Ignore what the pros do as it typically doesn't apply to normal humans.

Thanks for the typo-tip-off, you fat cunt.

I'd rather pay attention to what the pros do, than what novice 'fixie' riders or fluoro nodders do ;)

Thanks for the typo-tip-off, you fat cunt.

I'd rather pay attention to what the pros do, than what novice 'fixie' riders or fluoro nodders do ;)

BMMF bib shorts are on a bit tight this morning.;)

As a pedestrian, my dilemma is 'trunk' style boxers vs commando.

You wanker.

sssasky - a good point well made. And i'm probably more of a recreational cyclist than you at the moment.

But...you'll still never seem me in a 'hybrid' shoe. Wear what you're comfortable in, I guess that goes for anything.

B.

Fair enough man. You should always absolutely wear what you are comfortable with.

And I didn't mean my post to come off like an attack. It wasn't personal. I just work in a shop that sells all types of clipless shoes, so I have a bit of a routine when it comes to explaining why anyone would want a 'hybrid' shoe when you can get more performance oriented ones for a similar price. And your 'truth' idea just got me going. neat concept, and something I think I apply in a lot of my daily life, without having labelled it before.

BMMF you pasty pedant.. yeah to an extent I agree. But why the fuck is this typing so slow .. what happened to my Firefox??! aarg ffs .. never mind

Fuck Firefox. I heart my Camino (which sounds like a Campag-Shimano hybrid).

for all the non-pedants out there, there's a firefox extension that lets you spell check fields like this.
i recommend it. it helps prevent typos.

that is all.

I prefer to use the old-fashioned method of cross-referencing with my orthographic representations - it's less error-prone than spell-checkers, and staves off dementia.

Luddenger.

i prefer to use the forum pedants