Subtle changes, bugs and feedback

I am currently using the "following" page like I used the "control panel" on the old forum.
Maybe I should be using a very clever search (that I saved as a bookmark) instead?
What I'd like to have is a breakdown of new activity in threads (sorry, I mean conversations), in chronological order, being able to click somewhere to go to the latest post (the way microcosm handles it, sending one to the point one has left off, or something does not work for me at all - I'm always being thrown "omewhere towards the end" of the thread, often between two posts actually).
What I dislike most of using the "following" page instead of the old CP is: it's cluttered and unclear to me.
When somebody replies to a comment of mine, this gets an entry - in addition to the conversation getting an entry because there's new activity in the first place.
If that somebody puts pictures in his post, they are displayed on my following page, often taking up the whole screen.
If that preson @mentions me in that post, this gets yet another entry on the following page, so I have two times all of his pictures cluttering up the "following" page, plus the regular "new activity" entry.

I'm having a hard time understanding that this is the way it's intended to be.

Another vote for Don't merge phone and digital pics.

Please don't merge the pets & cats threads. I like the pets thread.

The cat thread was fine as I think it was originally intended ( humorous cat based internet stuff ). It sadly degenerated from there into a "mister purrymewlyface never answers his emails" affair soon after :-/

Tiki - Well, we agree on that and a lot of it will be sorted out in time. You'll be able to ignore threads and forums so you'll be able to make the front page more like the old one. Opting out of the @ mention system has already been talked about. I agree that it is silly to be notified that there is a new comment in a thread and that there is a comment @ you when they are the very same comment. And that if someone replied to you at length it clutters up the following page and pushes threads, unnoticed, on to page 2.
I think there are a lot of people who basically want to be able to configure the forum so that it is as much like the old one as possible, but more reliable, and in time, I hope, that will happen.

You sound as if I pissed you off somehow - or are you out of coffee or something?

The merge was merely a suggestion.
If you're not fond of it, maybe you have more to support your point than "it was like this for a long time".
The analogy with the pet / cat thread is out of the question.
If you do not realize the importance of a dedicated cat thread you really have to open up your eyes maaaaaaan!
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You want the real reason, Tiki? People who take pictures with mobile phones are better than me and I hate them for it. All so young and good looking and with interesting hair. The bastards.

Please don't merge the pets & cats threads. I like the pets thread.

The cat thread was fine as I think it was originally intended ( humorous cat based internet stuff ).
Ironically, the first "cat thread" i made was merged - not with the pets thread, but with the meme thread..
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But seriously; please do not merge. Even if it indeed is a bit like BareNecessities described, this comes and goes like the tides.
Also the cat thread alone has more posts per year than the whole "pet" thread, so I guess has a right to exist..

So... conclusion is to merge cats with football and leave the photo threads alone?

#rep though all the whining/ranting threads could be bundled in too

I think there are a lot of people who basically want to be able to configure the forum so that it is as much like the old one as possible, but more reliable, and in time, I hope, that will happen.

Yea I guess..
..you know I'm not against progress or new ideas, so I basically welcomed the move to mc even though it meant adjusting.

Honestly though - so far it's:
more of a hassle to log-in, the new design is, imo, not an improvement (au contraire - I really dislike the font, and that stupid, big, useless grey bar on the right of every page, the unclear way replies get displayed instead of the nice way "quotes" were on the old one, well the new "cp")..
..and then there's really a lot of server issues lately.

I don't mean to bitch, I'm just saying..
..I'm really having a hard time finding things about the new LFGSS that I'd say are an improvement over the old one so far..

merge cats with football

I like this idea!
Do it, if just for shits & giggles; name it Catballz !

Please merge the phone picture thread with the "regular" digital photography thread.
Merged content will not get in it's way, but complement another.

Moderators thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

We mostly persuaded numpties not to post bug reports there; don't invent new numptiness.

whining/ranting threads

Don't forget the nauseatingly, self-congratulatory threads.

You guys are so fortunate to have never seen a "hug" thread.

Hug threads are vomit inducing. Seriously, you feel yourself gagging and having to swallow it to avoid splattering your keyboard.

Don't forget the nauseatingly, self-congratulatory threads.

Football was already mentioned

Forget this, lets just merge LFGSS with Bikeradar and be done with it.

"hug" thread.

Ogod, you've probably planted a seed in somebody's mind there D:

I would kill it with fire.

There you go!

How would we decide?

Thunderdome.

@Velocio sent you an email, but I keep getting this error message this morning, when I open up conversations, started with the forum asking me to login even though I leave myself logged on, on this computer, I did so. Nothing happened and then hit back to the following page I'd left it on yesterday, did a bit of reading then got the error message again. Keeps happening randomly since.

using chrome Version 37.0.2062.124 m on a windows 7 pc..

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@Velocio, just got your email and am moving every forward...

CSRF verification... let me explain.

There is a big security risk that if someone (any middle-man, the owner of an internet cafe, whomever...) could record your internet traffic, then they could replay those web requests (with your cookies, auth, etc) and they would be you.

To avoid this, sites need some way of saying I know that this is cornelius. That happens when you sign-in... but how to prevent someone else from claiming that on every subsequent page?

So web-sites now say a mantra, for every page they say "I know that this is cornelius", and to prevent anyone else from saying that they add a bit "and to prove it the secret is phlibble", and on the next page it might say "and to prove it the secret is flibble".

Every page that is requested has a secret embedded on it, that only the real cornelius would know. And as soon as the secret is echoed back to the server, the secret is rendered useless and the next page gets a new secret.

CSRF = a secret on every page, that only you could know, and that can only be used once.

By hitting the back button on any action that submits a form (sign-in, post a comment, etc) you attempt to supply a secret that has been used in the past. The browser is submitting an old version of the page.

But we can see that this whole security thing is precisely to prevent anyone from replaying history. So it fails.

The solution is to use F5 (refresh), or to go forward and repeat your action that way. But going back in history to a point that a form was submitted... that will always fails as the secrets won't match.

I'm seeing a lot of the Cloudflare "this isn't borked, this isn't borked either, so THIS must be borked" page recently.

I've found that the most efficient way of browsing the forum is to hit every link twice - that way you skip the "THIS IS BORKED" page, and go straight to your destination.

Safari on iPhone, Firefox on Android, Chrome on Win7.

Also, is there an ETA on a quote function, and can we turn off the "suddenly turns into code" function that infests the "write new post" box?