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  • Exactly!
    It's being there that matters.....not showing that you've been there!
    :)

    If you really must show that you've been to all these drinks then why not take a beer mat from every pub and put that in your spokes.....but please stop trying to make everything that is forum based like some sort of club.

  • why not take a beer mat from every pub and put that in your spokes

    Done that already, I chose mine for the colour!

  • hmm, i see your point scott, but you also may be looking too far into it? i see it as just another excuse to have a laugh.

  • Easties is already a laugh.
    We don't need to make spokecards for everything we do.
    Look how upset everybody got when the ghost bikes idea was robbed. It's no wonder couriers get a bit defensive towards the fixed community when we take things which are synonymous with their culture and use it to advertise every little ride or pub jaunt we go to.
    Like i say....spoke cards are for couriers to show the alleycats they've attended....not to show that you go to the pub on a wednesday night.
    IMO.

  • I couldn't agree more. The idea of a spoke card for drinks is just ridiculous.

    we might as well be riding with these in our wheels:

  • that'd look awesome as a disc wheel though...hmm, polo bike...

    lebowski you think you might be coming along? been ages man..

  • But Scott, the Saucy Kipper spoke cards are fantastic!

  • When Martin Luther King said....

    "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.
    I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
    I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
    I have a dream today!
    I have a dream that one day, *d**o*wn in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
    I have a dream today!"

    ...he didn't then follow up by saying...."Oh and by the way....there's commemorative spoke cards and t-shirts over by the dunkin donuts stand"....:)

    Isn't it enough to just be a part of something, without having to let everybody else know that you're a part of it?

  • Isn't it enough to just be a part of something, without having to let everybody else know that you're a part of it?
    Hoo-rah.

  • spokengers

  • Isn't it enough to just be a part of something, without having to let everybody else know that you're a part of it?

    Muddy waters there though Scott - at some level that's surely what the original spoke cards are about too?

    I used to keep the flyers of old club nights I promoted/djed.. I've still got some of them and they're a nice memento from another time. I think someone laminating something to remember an organised ride you went on is nice, but not necessarily to put in your spokes, more as a keepsake.

    But yeah I think when it gets to drinks it's a bit, "okay great, so you go for drinks with your mates"....

    I'm not sure the twitter thread's for you dude... ;)

  • Isn't it enough to just be a part of something, without having to let everybody else know that you're a part of it?

    I feel the same way--what still continually baffles me is the ready availability of huge numbers of pictures and/or videos of pretty much any event, this desire to record everything. Perhaps I'm just getting too old--obviously, pre-digital everything, floods of audio-visual material weren't really an option--, but I always wonder what's wrong with memories.

    I think spokecards are a similar kind of trophy, a token of belonging, and I think there is a real risk of cheapening them if they're used indiscriminately. For the occasional ride, yes, especially if it's an extraordinary ride (I personally don't see that using them for non-Alleycat rides as a particular affront to messenger culture, but then that's probably because I'm certainly not in touch with that nor trying to pretend to be), but not for everything, although I have to say I quite like the idea of giving them to new people on their first forum night out.

  • I'd just like to point out that I won't be joining twitter, no matter how much the thread lingers in "General" when it should be in "Miscellaneous and Meaningless". Twitter's like laminating a spoke card every time you go to the toilet.

  • I'd just like to point out that I won't be joining twitter, no matter how much the thread lingers in "General" when it should be in "Miscellaneous and Meaningless". Twitter's like laminating a spoke card every time you go to the toilet.

    You mean, you don't want people to know what you're up to? Why the secrecy? :D

  • why should people be so interested in what I'm up to? why should I think I'm so important and interesting that they should know?

    in any case, it's just another fiction. It's not like people are placing a camera on themselves 24/7. They're filtering their lives through to try and give people the person they want them to think they are. I presume you could twitter that you've just watched a really sad film and are having a little snuffle into a kleenex while chopping up the next door neighbour's body and generally mopping up after yourself.

  • Massive apologies for cross threading.. though really Oliver's to blame for taking it totally off topic and I have reported him for that reason (not reeeeeeeally).

    Back to booze 'n' bikes!

  • Phil, I completely agree with you!

  • Ollie in honour of you derailing this thread, I am gonna rename you ononeshickster, and so it is written...:p

  • Haha, as if anyone could derail this thread of all threads. ;)

  • Muddy waters there though Scott - at some level that's surely what the original spoke cards are about too?

    I used to keep the flyers of old club nights I promoted/djed.. I've still got some of them and they're a nice memento from another time. I think someone laminating something to remember an organised ride you went on is nice, but not necessarily to put in your spokes, more as a keepsake.

    spoke cards are not flyers though - they're (alleycat) race entry cards... more comparable with a race number.

  • Muddy waters there though Scott - at some level that's surely what the original spoke cards are about too?

    I used to keep the flyers of old club nights I promoted/djed.. I've still got some of them and they're a nice memento from another time.

    Not muddy waters at all. Alleycat spoke cards represent an actual event you've entered....some kind of achievment...they don't have them printed with the words 'look, i'm part of the courier club'.
    Likewise, Flyers are an informative advert to show who is spinning a certain gig.

    East drinks is a few like minded people getting together for beers,chat, and a laugh...nothing more.
    There is no achievment in going...we don't advertise who the barmaids are gonna be on that night or what the star beer is.
    There is just no need to make easties seem like some kind of club...or make it seem like something more important than it actually is.

    It's like couriers having spokecards printed to say 'I drink in the foundry on friday nights'...just doesn't need to be done.
    But still....if some of you want spokecards to show that you're 'Easties'...go ahead... :)

  • yeah spokecards possibly are a bit ott.

    my posts seem to be crap at the moment !

    maybe i should stfu.

  • somebody, since when did that stop anyone else from posting.....

    scott / fred - yep, I think my point was that of course a spokecard is about having done a particular alleycat, but seeing as people don't take them out their spokes when the race is over there is some sense of "I did this"..

    but I'm muddying my own agreement with Scott last night, apart from having a good laugh at the Saucy Kipper argument - I am indeed in no need of a spoke card to authenticate my drinking experience.....

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