Turbo Trainer Advice

Yep '17 £699 and '14 £599

Novice question alert;
Does the trainer cassette need to match my bike cassette to avoid an alterations?

kinda, I don't change gears, just let trainer change resistance ..

Hmmm, so it could come down to whether you ( or I ) want the new, quieter machine.

Isn't part of the point of smart trainer, that the resistance increases so you change gear accordingly, i.e simulating a hill?

Yeah, I'm really in the new model, Kickr or Core camp.
Moving more towards Core and spend the rest towards a power meter for when out riding??

Isn't part of the point of smart trainer, that the resistance increases so you change gear accordingly, i.e simulating a hill?

I can do this on my 10 year old dumb Magentic Tacx. I have a powermeter - What am I missing here?

In honesty I don't have much of a clue.
I'm guessing it feeds from trainer road etc. So you don't manually do it?
My main issue has been thru axle compatibility...

i have a wahoo kickr V2 for sale 650

At the risk of this going the way of me offering the rapha jersey.
How much are you looking for?

Erg mode ... which allows you to just spin and the trainer makes you do consistent power for a structured workout.

I assume that on the tacx you have to choose a resistance setting and then spin a certain cadence and watch the power meter to achieve the target. All of that goes away with Erg mode, where all you need to do is keep the legs turning.

Are you still planning on selling your Neo?

Yes, no sign of the Tacx bike being released yet, unless I've missed it?

650

Vaporware

Quoting dbr here:

Having gone smart, I wouldn’t go back. I reckon the quality of the
workout is better as you can’t fail to hit the power targets. It also
removes the mental strain of concentrating on hitting the targets all
the time. Just the luxury of an hour or three every week when you can
listen to a podcast or just think about stuff if worth it to me. I
tried my dumb trainer again with my brother’s power tap wheel a while
ago and it was just awful - mentally draining and not helpful training
wise at all.

You could argue that the mental aspect of holding a certain target is
helpful for training, but having raced HCs (basically exactly that for
similar-to-turbo-trainer durations) I’ve not found it to be the case.

What if you just stop pedaling on a smart trainer?
That's how I fail to finish my "intervals". Because I LEAVE IT ALL OVER THE GARDEN/ROAD/NO SURRENDER. etc etc.
Or I just think "fuck that" and skip one.

If you fail you fail hard ... at least I do ... meaning you literally cannot turn the resistance over, legs go to jelly and the whole thing grinds to a halt ...

Yeah, the Kickr is bad at low cadence. Becomes a total wall. Apparently the Cyclops Hammer deals with this somehow.

If you have a cadence sensor trainerroad will auto pause when you stop pedalling. If you want to let the last bit of the interval run out but can’t face turning the pedals you can back-pedal and the timer will keep running.

On the “not having to concentrate” thing, this morning I skipped the podcast and concentrated on the workout. I think I got a slightly better training effect and didn’t bail on anything. I visualised this weekends’ races. Would do again.

I'm taking it to the logical conclusion: all my training is now just visualising.

#propersmarttraining
Smart trainers need plugging in and therefore shielding from the elements right?

Skateboard griptape on the roller stops slipping if you are jumping into sprints etc.

I believe so, hence why you need a 'pain cave' rather than a 'pain garden'.

I can't afford me no pain cave. Plus the noise in the house, and the sweat and the sighs. I don't want my neighbours confused.

You want them to see you suffering majorly in the garden instead? Wierdo.

All my turbo stuff is done in the garden too btw (unless it's wet and Andrea and the kids are out - then I do it in the kitchen with the back door open!)

You should both feel very ashamed.

Did anyone take you up on this? I would love it if it's still going.