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• #1902
Wittgenstein's 'Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus' up next. Ideal bog reading.
You're a braver man than me. I couldn't get through it, and now sits on the shelf next to 'The Republic' like conspiring trophies of inadequacy.
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• #1903
I enjoyed the trophies of inadequacy line very much. Might even rep you for it.
The point might not be to entirely understand that stuff otherwise if you did it's taught you nothing new, except being a reminder you could have written it in the first place. I have no shame in admitting that of the reams of such things I've read I can hardly remember any and can quote even less, but I'm always capable of admiring it on its own terms.
What never fails to knock me over is the ability of some philosophers to express a complicated idea in very few words. Given that Wittgenstein treats the operation of language seriously that helps with the context of approaching his work, which for me is half the battle. I need to personally be interested in/share a belief with the aims of a philosopher before I commit to them, rather than read the entire established canon to justify its and my existence - developing an understanding of the writer is just as important as appreciating the ideas to me.
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• #1904
#addingtheoryswinespost^totheshelf
Repps all round
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• #1905
Oh and I'm reading Dead Simple by Peter James
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• #1906
Just finished the Sandman comics by Neil Gaiman, and I have to say, they're fucking brilliant.
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• #1907
I enjoyed the trophies of inadequacy line very much. Might even rep you for it.
Now we are even after your high quality twin peaks/coil post, might even enjoy that clip again now I've reminded myself.
Couldn't agree with you more, that not understanding something is totally fine, and there is a value in being aware of the fact too.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but for me The Fall's music is a example that comes to mind. I don't know if I like it, but I know it's good.For some reason I only attribute this awareness of uncertainty as being a positive with matters of subjectivity (which is possibly correct), like the unfilled sense you can feel after leaving a prestigious art gallery. For example, what benefits would there be from not understanding how gravity works?
I suppose until now I'd considered philosophy as an academic (being objective) subject, maybe from a secondary school context, so to not 'get it' would be incorrect.
But I guess you've made me realise it's a proposal that can't really be disproved, like art, thus being subjective.What I'm failing to say is, you've made me realise I shouldn't feel bad for not 'getting' these philosophical heavyweights. Thank you.
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• #1908
I have been asked to some promotional design work for author James Patterson. Don't really know much about him. Anyone care to fill me in?
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• #1909
I'm not saying you should feel bad, but you should try. I don't think there's much benefit in being content in not having gained anything after reading a text.
And there are many interpretations of a lot of this stuff (especially Plato), so you don't have to worry too much about being "correct." Or getting it "all."
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• #1910
I'm not saying you should feel bad, but you should try. I don't think there's much benefit in being content in not having gained anything after reading a text.
Certainly, there's no point reading anything with your eyes closed. I think it depends who you are though, for me I'd have to be in a real trying mood just to pick it up.
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• #1911
Going to Sea in a Sieve - Danny Baker
Is great
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• #1912
Nearly finished the new Wiggins book. I'm generally a fan of his, but can't help but feel that he comes across as a bit of a prick at times in this.
Pretty good read, not massively gripping, but then biogs / autobiogs never are in my opinion
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• #1913
Currently got the latest John Sandford on the go - [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Mad-River-Virgil-Flowers-Novel/dp/0399157700/"]Mad River[/ame]
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• #1914
Currently aabout halfway through The Book of Dave (Will Self) and absolutely loving it. Does anyone know how cabbies tend to feel about it?
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• #1915
William Hope Hodgson - House on the Borderland (again)
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• #1916
Angus Wilson - Hemlock and After.
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• #1917
Junot Diaz - This is How You Lose Her.
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• #1918
What do I talk about when I talk about running2nd time, i love it
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• #1919
City of Bohane by Kevin barry.....second read of a wonderful book.
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• #1920
What do I talk about when I talk about running2nd time, i love it
Picked this yesterday off my bookshelf, went for something new instead. Great book but not my favourite book by Murakami.
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• #1921
wind-up bird chronicle is my favourite.
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• #1922
wind-up bird chronicle is my favourite.
have 1Q84 but haven't read it yetSurprised you can post...
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• #1923
I'm torn between wind-up bird and hard boiled wonderland.
Platini - nice to see you here again...
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• #1924
What do I talk about when I talk about running2nd time, i love it
theres many more if his I need to read
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• #1925
Surprised you can post...
why?
I finished it this evening. Extremely easy to get through quickly. Quite repetitive though mostly fine, but I'll never read it again.
Also recently finished 'Rough Ride', which Hilly Ben gave me along with a book of his own tricksy poetry. I'm sure Kimmage's writing has improved since then, but surer still Ben's poetry is already excellent.
Wittgenstein's 'Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus' up next. Ideal bog reading.
Fancy these soon;