Bike Anti-Porn - When Things Go Wrong

^ this is from the Hetchins site!!!

Why?

because it's a comfortable set up with modern brakes and levers to make the most out of it?

anti-porn in form, but not in function.

Hummm... surely Hetchins' are all about form over function?

The lugs, curvey stays etc. its all really about aethetics, so they can't then go and be all functional can they?

Actually Hetchins designed the curvey seat stay for a functional reason than for aethetics reason.

What's the function of curley stays? - more comfort?

(serious question - I'd like to know)

what is functional about non machined track rims with brakes?

What's the function? (serious question)

http://www.hetchins.org/403.htm

I don't know whether it's actually is functional, however I do know that the curvey seat stay is popular in alu bicycle to absorb the road vibration, they possibly got the inspiration from the Hetchins'.

Oh, ok. That makes sense....

... I guess taking a guard dog with you instead of a massive U-lock is pretty functional too...

...saves a fair bit of weight I recon

what is functional about non machined track rims with brakes?

Others can hear you when you're breaking?

What's the function of curley stays? - more comfort?

(serious question - I'd like to know)

In the olden days of British cycle racing, amateur status was taken so seriously that you were not even allowed to have the maker's name on the frame. As a workaround, so that it would be clear that top riders were on their frame, various makers came up with spuriously justified adjustments to frame shapes to make them look distinctive. Hetchins' curley stays are the most well known example, but Bates' Diadrant forks were just as spurious.

Come on Mr Scoble. People don't get a classic Hetchins because they value function before shiny chrome lugs. That bike is an exercise is how to get it utterly wrong. And besides Navigator pista wheels are pure unadulterated cheap shit. I hope the owner of that bike is a yank. That might explain something at least.

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In the olden days of British cycle racing, amateur status was taken so seriously that you were not even allowed to have the maker's name on the frame. As a workaround, so that it would be clear that top riders were on their frame, various makers came up with spuriously justified adjustments to frame shapes to make them look distinctive. Hetchins' curley stays are the most well known example, but Bates' Diadrant forks were just as spurious.

Damn, was just about to post that.

it does say all that on the link ed posted you know.

I was going to write it too but the link seems to suggest its more about vibration damping and in addition it was to identify the frames on the am circuit etc...

^ yes, I just read it... my bad.

Not sure about Hetchins on the whole - a bit OTT sometimes (bit like a Colnago)...

... but I do like this

it does say all that on the link ed posted you know.

I was going to write it too but the link seems to suggest its more about vibration damping and in addition it was to identify the frames on the am circuit etc...

BTW - has anyone here ridden a Hetchins? - do the stays make it a smother ride?

it does say all that on the link ed posted you know.

Damn, should have read the link before wasting all that typing time!

Smooth ride

Come on Mr Scoble. People don't get a classic Hetchins because they value function before shiny chrome lugs. That bike is an exercise is how to get it utterly wrong. And besides Navigator pista wheels are pure unadulterated cheap shit. I hope the owner of that bike is a yank. That might explain something at least.

How did they get it utterly wrong by making it rideable? it's only utterly wrong when it doesn't have the correct era component, frankly at least they didn't put riser, velocity deep v, 650c front wheel so it'll be 'barspinnable'.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the Navigator Pista, they're reasonably light, pretty cheap, and defintely better than the Miche Pistards, but then I'd go for a simple Open Pro/System EX wheelbuild over the Navigator.

And hoping that the owner is an American just so you can readily insult them? a rather silly thing to says.

^ +1 for saying no to xenophobia, but really?

If you put your hand on your heart and say you think that is appropriate componant choice then I'll belive you... but I find it hard when I see pix of your bike.

Edit: after reading your post, I'm not so sure the Hetchins isn't suitable for bar spinz 'n ting... those stays would prob be great for absobing some of the impact from dropping of a flight of steps!

Team Nasty Components On A Hetchins Is Wrong.

Sorry uncle scoble. Please don't call the UN or the thought police. A fair point you make about the bike but it boils down to "It could be worse". Things can always be worse but that doesn't make them good does it, so why play devil's advocate on something you clearly don't rate anyway?

Why?

I've just puked! WTF!!?

Navigator pista wheels are pure unadulterated cheap shit.

cheap shit, as used by some of the fastest track racers in the country, including the olympic development squad and current GB riders, daily, week in, week out with no notable problems.

I had Navigator Pistas, ace wheels. Strong, light and go like stink