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• #20151
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• #20152
christ
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• #20153
Most of this thread, DFP called it right on the first page. Possibly responsible for all the anti in the 2012 thread.
And how I was heckled for it!
I bet everyone will agree with me now. Japanese hipsters are like all those people who make pengy conversions on fixed gear gallery, but with more money and access to really nice keirin frames.
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• #20154
Practicality. Even at the front of the dropout there's space for a bus to drive through.
But closing that gap too far may actually be wrong:
http://www.lookcycle.com/en/us/look-cycle/technologies/techno-aero.htmlCurrent thinking is that a bit of spcae is good.
All sound like proper reasons but I still say...
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• #20155
All sound like proper reasons but I still say...
I'd be inclined to agree with you, but Leader have built it wrong just as much as the owner has set it up wrong. Since all the 'aero' features on a Leader are pure styling which has never been near either CFD or a wind tunnel, they might as well have gone with a fashionably tight clearance.
The 10-12mm gap which has become fashionable of late is, in many cases, just as much a case of blindly following fashion as the tight clearance was in its day. LOOK did the work and found that on their frame with their choice of rear wheel, the balance of factors favoured a gap. This gives no really useful guide about what the optimal gap would be for other combinations of frame and rear wheel. At least one of the latest generation of TT frames has now acquired a channel in the rear wheel cut out, allowing a close clearance where the edge of the frame meets the tyre sidewall and a large gap in the centre where the tread can freely pull the boundary layer round without a lot of shear drag.
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• #20156
but no holes in the forks?
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• #20157
but no holes in the forks?
Ridley are doing holey forks and seat stays, and they have the wheel tight in the cut out, but there's a splitter above the cutout unlike the LOOK which has a big gap under the brake bridge
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ok a few too many spacers and a bit bodge bar angle, but never anti!
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• #20160
andyp - son I am disappoint
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• #20161
It's hideous. The saddle, the spacers, the bar angle, the cable routing are all wrong, and you could drive a bus through the gap between the seat tube and the rear wheel.
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• #20162
.... WTB saddle?
and, touring?
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• #20163
It's hideous. The saddle, the spacers, the bar angle, the cable routing are all wrong, and you could drive a bus through the gap between the seat tube and the rear wheel.
It's not hideous, it's fine. Not porn, not anti, but ok, like a Ford Mondeo or a Byron Burger. Both of which are hardly desirable, but in their own way, perfectly fine.
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• #20164
It's hideous. The saddle, the spacers, the bar angle, the cable routing are all wrong, and you could drive a bus through the gap between the seat tube and the rear wheel.
Repped.
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• #20165
It's not hideous, it's fine. Not porn, not anti, but ok, like a Ford Mondeo or a Byron Burger. Both of which are hardly desirable, but in their own way, perfectly fine.
what's wrong with byron?
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• #20166
what's wrong with byron?
Nothing, it's fine. That's my point.
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• #20168
great find
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• #20169
hahahahahaha oh yes
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• #20170
what is it and whats up with the head angle?
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• #20171
Looks like it used to be a TT bike for a midget or deluded aero freak.
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• #20172
what is it and whats up with the head angle?
head and seat angle. Looks like it was designed around an even smaller front wheel than it has?
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• #20173
Just... wow.
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