Bike Anti-Porn - When Things Go Wrong

i dont understand your point? its a feature which is fucking strong, it features heavily on older bmx's when strength was an issue, strenght is also an issue on frames built for 700c wheels.

The point is that it was a silly-ugly-gimmick feature in the first place and is the reason why it was lost to history. I understand the charm of reinforced fancy overlapping wishbone junctions. The terrible one barcode and hoffman Taj frames probably demonstrate the "pinnacle".

But did you ever have a go one one of those BMX's ? they were heavy as fuck, making them pretty damn not-fun-at-all for street riding unless you were into gnarly drops. The care-free bunny-hoppin style of todays street bmx just would not work with those heavy bastard frames. With those tanks you just had to huck yourself off stuff. None of this bunny-hop 360 tailwhip malarkey.

Even on todays BMX bikes, the supposedly "weaker" simple seatstay junction is never the thing that fails. It is much mroe often the main tubes or where they attach to headtube.

700c bikes, particularly the forks and wheels are by their very nature much more fragile than a 20" wheeled BMX. The traditional seatstay setup is fine for BMX's, 26" jump bikes and steel MTB's. Why would it not be ok for a glorified hybrid?

For fixed riding in particular, the amount by which you are chucking yourself off stuff is very limited, and if you do your wheels and forks are much more likely to break.

fair enough, thanks for explaining it. and yeah, until about 4 months ago, a 90's bmx was my shopping bike, even had the same seat-stay junction as all of these, the bike, as you said, was stupidly fucking heavy.

Those T1 frames fucking rule

good call

such a shame. Well, just a wheel, saddle and bars away from being porn.

To be fair they prob chucked together what they had after laying out on the frame.

The frame.

The frame.

The frame.

echoes

Those T1 frames fucking rule

I know, I did call them the "pinnacle".

But id take one of these over those anyday, even with the quill stem.

If fixie-tricksters would just get over themselves and ride cheap overbuilt BMX, they would be able to do proper tricks and there would be no need for these abominations.

As a bmxer, i cannot +1 enough!

As a bmxer I cannot -1 enough.

Just let people ride whatever the fuck they want. BMX is full of whiney cunts who complain that they are looked down upon by the rest of the cycling world, nobody sees their sport as a real sport, and why can't people just let them do what they want to do which is be adults riding kids bikes.

Then as soon as someone comes along and tries to encroach on their "territory", they jump down their fucking necks. Trials riders, 26/24" street and park bikes, and now fixed trick riders.

I love how they were so hurt and upset when Thrasher printed that 'BMX Jihad' article inciting skaters to kick out BMXs from skateparks, yet the same people do the same thing to other riders.

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Just let people ride whatever the fuck they want. BMX is full of whiney cunts who complain ...

^This.
Fuck the lot of them.

Still not over being told to "go back to the track" by an adult person riding a BMX

As somebody who time trials on fixed, I'm not exactly well placed to criticise people who deliberately make their cycling harder by choosing a sub-optimal machine, but at least fixed testers have clocked some properly competitive times, whereas people trying to do BMX riding on 700c always ends up looking silly, rather than clever.

I understand what you're saying, but I don't think they care about looking silly. In the grand scheme of things, if you asked a random member of the public, they'd probably say the bearded adult riding the BMX looked sillier than the fixed trick rider, but they both looked comparatively normal compared to the guy concealing a beer paunch under fluorescent lycra and oversized shades.

@Tester

What if you don't take things that serious? In life I mean.
We're talking about bikes that'll be used as commuters, in the vast majority of cases here. Not at a competitive level. Taiwanese bits of metal to hop of curbs, shit and giggles.
I think NH's point was more towards Haters hating but complaining of being hated by others, which is hateful. ;)
Even a trick bike can be Porn, IMO, if well thought* and set-up.

*Yes, I know some will say that the concept of a 700c trick bike in itself is already a fail.
I say, lulz.

Well, beaten to it by NH himself.

Really, I don't care that much, but as this thread is one of the aesthetic/subjective ones, I thought I'd stick my oar in. There is a kind of spectrum from serious to silly, and not all points on it are cool, IMO.

e.g.
Deadly Serious, dead cool - Fabian Cancellara on a Shiv
Slightly Eccentric, but cool - PNut riding fixed in the National 12hr
On the wrong bike, trying to be cool but failing - 700CMX
Epically inappropriate, and back to cool - Unicycle trials

Found her outside a pub in Bognor. Left unlocked. Pure meathead pub that nobody would dare to rob.

I'd own that bike.

I'd own that bike.

I'd set it on fire for you.

I would then cry big salty tears of bitter regret.

I'd ask Sumo to sell you his Visp then.

I'd sell you Sumo then.

Deal.

You people are spending too much time wiv EEI.

^^^^ idk how many of these arrows I need but I´m talking about the yellow bike with blue grimecas. lose the plastic bag and kids in the street would stare at it riding by. which means it´s fucking awesome cause kids are the best judge of awesomeness.

Not even the kids in Bognor think that's cool.