Coffee Appreciation

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  • Thanks. It sounds like something to add to our Vitamix.

  • On the coffee grinder thing - I repurposed a novelty gift into something useful for keeping the counter clean. Works super well TBH.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/KitchenCraft-Novelty-Tabletop-Vacuum-Cleaner/dp/B000BNTQCY

  • It depends on the coffee, if the water is looking a bit thin while brewing in the v60 then try a slightly finer grind and more weight. I go between 15 and 18g like others have mentioned.

  • That’s a really good idea. Might have to lift one of those as my old Mazzer is a little bit incontinent.

    Random Q but when did Espresso roasts start getting so much lighter? My mate has a roasting business here in LA and I don’t get on with his at all. It’s interesting and fruity, but more acidic than I like.

  • Random Q but when did Espresso roasts start getting so much lighter?

    When the third wave hit.

  • All the temp. Boil the kettle, make the coffee.

  • I did exactly that. Ran a bit fast so need to tighten it up but already a tastier cup at that ratio. Thank you sir.

  • Morning all, our kitchen coffee grinder (Iberital MC2) is on its way out after 10 years of hard graft on the espresso machine.

    I am keen to replace and upgrade hopefully, got a few hundred quid to throw at it for something decent if anyone has anything they want to shift?

    Cheers, James.

  • I would wait for the July queue to open up on Niche Zero kickstarter page. Took only a month from ordering to delivery (I did join the queue only on the day before deadline)

  • I have a Mahlkonig Vario I'm selling for £200

  • Cleaning and descaling a moccamaster after 100 filters used.
    Is Clean Drop the only way? I don't want to run a load of citric acid through and fuck up the machine.

  • I personally think they are talking bollocks. If you use the appropriate dilution of Citric Acid it won't harm the copper parts any differently to the acid they put in Clean Drop.

    I can't remember exactly but I think the usual recommended Citric Acid solution is roughly 1% to 2% by water weight.

  • Yep, branded cleaning tablets/powder are a scam IMO. One thing I will say about using citric acid is be careful to keep it off any chromed bits (though this would be the same as using Clean Drop, assuming it's just citric acid in a branded packet) as it can damage the finish.

  • Yeah, I agree. But the one thing branded stuff does do is, it's made to a consistent strength....

  • PM sent thank you.

  • There's no secret really. Get a litre of water and dissolve 10g to 20g of citric acid in it.

  • Citric Acid solution is roughly 1% to 2% by water weight.
    I didn't read this right.

    I read it as 1% citric acid solution in a volume/mass of water. Rather than 1g in 100 ml. I don't know why.

  • Blimey I use 10%! Not caused an issue and it’s been done dozens of times on my machine

  • I usually use closer to 10% too!

    Then again, I've never put it through copper pipes before so maybe Moccamaster aren't bullshitting about that. I suspect that they are though.

  • Also while I did just say that the branded tablets are a scam, I do still use Cafiza for general cleaning (as opposed to descaling). It's pretty effective and nowhere near as extortionate as the sort of cleaning tablets I was referring to.

  • Sod it. When I'm back in London I'm going to immerse some raw copper in 10% citric acid and see what happens.

  • My father-in-law put two spoons of citric acid instead of sugar in his coffee. His pipes were fine.

  • I’ve bathed stuff for days in cold solution when restoring machines without a problem, and left it in a hot machine for a full working day when doing an in-situ descale. I think the acidity weakens a lot when you start dissolving kilos of calcium into it.

    Good excuse to show off my shiny pipes.


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  • I think the acidity weakens a lot when you start dissolving kilos of calcium into it.

    I've definitely observed this when descaling stuff. It had always surprised me how little limescale it takes to neutralise a quite strong acid solution.

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