Congestion Charge goes to £25 in October

A good thing right?

The prediction suggests that 2/3 of the cars affected (gas guzzlers... so SUV's and large luxury cars) will avoid coming into London afterwards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7240309.stm

Oh no! I'm gonna have to sell my beemer. :(

"cars with the lowest carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions will receive a 100% discount from the daily charge."

So all the cunts with X5s go out and buy another car, a smaller one and fuck us anyway. Great.

hippy So all the cunts with X5s go out and buy another car, a smaller one and fuck us anyway. Great.

Replace large cars with smaller ones and we get better air quality, and more space in which to weave through the standing traffic.

It doesn't reduce the number of cars, but it makes them smaller and less polluting. They'll still be stuck in traffic and angry at not being able to get out of 2nd gear.

I'm all for it.

If Red Ken can persude drivers into those G-Wizz spazz-chariots London will be a better place.

Some law involving audible warning of them would be handy, though.

I am all for it too.

The problem is that Ken is probably going to lose the election in May and Boris will overturn all these things to please his Tory electorate.

GaH!

If Boris becomes Mayor we're all fucked. The guy's clearly an idiot.

bombadil If Boris becomes Mayor we're all fucked. The guy's clearly an idiot.

We have 1,200+ members. If we think we're going to be that screwed by Boris, why not let's agree to collectively campaign for Ken... or someone we believe could beat Boris?

I hate getting politics involved in this stuff... but a straight up "It's in the interest of all members of the community" thing I could get behind.

As much as this place is beginning to look like my whole world, we live in a city of 7 million people.

Campaigning is a good idea, for sure, but it'll be like farting in a wind tunnel.

velocity boy It doesn't reduce the number of cars, but it makes them smaller and less polluting. They'll still be stuck in traffic and angry at not being able to get out of 2nd gear.

i never get out of first gear - ;)

but seriously why is it going to affect rich people with big cars if they can afford the car, petrol tax etc, they can afford congestion charge

velocity boy [quote]hippy So all the cunts with X5s go out and buy another car, a smaller one and fuck us anyway. Great.

Replace large cars with smaller ones and we get better air quality, and more space in which to weave through the standing traffic.
It doesn't reduce the number of cars, but it makes them smaller and less polluting. They'll still be stuck in traffic and angry at not being able to get out of 2nd gear.[/quote]

Except for the extra shit in the air during production of all these new cars, plus you have the added risk that now these muppets will be driving outside of London in cars they are less familiar with. I deal with enough cnuts during my training now without a bunch of 'G-Wizz on weekdays, wow look at me in my big car' on weekends types..

You are right about the city being nicer with less 4x4s. I'm all for the increased C-charge.. but there are other issues. Hopefully the plonkers with X5's will be so stretched on their mortgages they won't be able to afford the X5 AND the G-Wizz... that would be a beautiful thing :)

mashton As much as this place is beginning to look like my whole world, we live in a city of 7 million people.

Campaigning is a good idea, for sure, but it'll be like farting in a wind tunnel.

Have you seen me fart?

flickwg [quote]velocity boy It doesn't reduce the number of cars, but it makes them smaller and less polluting. They'll still be stuck in traffic and angry at not being able to get out of 2nd gear.

i never get out of first gear - ;)
but seriously why is it going to affect rich people with big cars if they can afford the car, petrol tax etc, they can afford congestion charge[/quote]

Some of them can't or the ones on the edge might be forced to use public transport. The rest, we continue to attack.. :)

hippy [quote]velocity boy [quote]hippy So all the cunts with X5s go out and buy another car, a smaller one and fuck us anyway. Great.

Replace large cars with smaller ones and we get better air quality, and more space in which to weave through the standing traffic.
It doesn't reduce the number of cars, but it makes them smaller and less polluting. They'll still be stuck in traffic and angry at not being able to get out of 2nd gear.[/quote]

Except for the extra shit in the air during production of all these new cars, plus you have the added risk that now these muppets will be driving outside of London in cars they are less familiar with. I deal with enough cnuts during my training now without a bunch of 'G-Wizz on weekdays, wow look at me in my big car' on weekends types..

You are right about the city being nicer with less 4x4s. I'm all for the increased C-charge.. but there are other issues. Hopefully the plonkers with X5's will be so stretched on their mortgages they won't be able to afford the X5 AND the G-Wizz... that would be a beautiful thing :)[/quote]

I agree Hippy. I reckon a lot of these X5 twats can't really afford another car, but need the 'status symbol' that is a big 4x4.
Hopefully, £125 a week to pick up Poppy and Tarquin from school might get these blind, 30something women out of their Cayennes and into a car they can actually drive.

I think the C Charge should be extended to the M25.

even one less chelsea tractor is a triumph.

Isn't it delicious how he's brought in the congestion charge, and then extended it west over the long driveways and shining range rover SEs of the Fulham set, and now is going to charge them £25 daily for the pleasure of polluting and clogging our streets and blindly reversing over our children? It actually makes me shiver a little bit with pleasure when i think of the fuckers spluttering over their earl gray as they read the good word in the Kensington Gazette. MWU HA HAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Anyway. I'm gonna vote ken - he's not perfect but i reckon he makes the hard decisions without being in thrall to 'the man' - i work for a homelessness charity and he always backs us up with press releases etc when tory cunts a la boris propose the banning of soup kitchens etc...

Oh My God. I've just found out my car (that gets used for holidays and visiting relatives on weekends ONLY) is going to be excluded from the C Charge! Ha. Maybe I'll start driving to work ;)

Thing is though Ken's just building up to some kind of tax/congestion/licensing for cyclists, ca see it happening. He's a cunt and I wouldn't trust him with my left bollock!

Skullhead I think the C Charge should be extended to the M25.

Fuck it.. just ban non-commercial vehicles within the M25. Done.

Skullhead I think the C Charge should be extended to the M25.

I would not fancy that but I wish there was full on national road pricing adjusted also to the type of car you drive. Therefor people who drive the worst cars at the worst time in the worst places get stung and someone who lives two miles from the nearest bus route in the middle of no where does not. They can drive to park and ride on the edge of the local town they wish to go to if it is an expensive town to drive into.

hippy [quote]Skullhead I think the C Charge should be extended to the M25.

Fuck it.. just ban non-commercial vehicles within the M25. Done.[/quote]

And company cars are...

But. But. If they remove all cars in the m25 ring I'll have nothing to play with.
Where's the adrenalin rush come from if you're not being targetted by homicidal cunts in cars?

a tax dodge. Do I win a prize?

I would also like to see trains that allow bikes on board when it would be ACTUALLY USEFUL to everyone. I never want a folder but if I move to the burbs I'll have to bloody buy one eerrr

Why don't you think the congestion charge all across London would be a good thing Tommy the Brick? Its not as if there are any less cars on the north circular than on Marylebone road.

I'm not allowed to tax dodge. I'd get taken to court and sacked.
You lose.

Object But. But. If they remove all cars in the m25 ring I'll have nothing to play with.
Where's the adrenalin rush come from if you're not being targetted by homicidal cunts in cars?

Bus drivers, black cabs, knobby's on hybrid Marins?