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• #602
Right what is a good mid priced square taper BB I can use on my Langster?
Another question can you fit any type of BB so long as threading matches? E.g. to change cranks?
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• #603
I had an alu GT track. It came with a 110.5mm Phil Wood bb + 7600 DA crank.
Swapped the frame for an identical Ti version but the^ bb axle was too short.
I had to resort to the DA njs bb that was originally in the Ti frame measuring 112.25mm.
It's now shot and I can't be arsed with the required maintenance for the Dura Ace system (open cup and balls- especially as it has no weather sleeve) in a UK winter.
I'd like to rebuild the Phil Wood bb with a longer axle but for ISO the options aren't great:
Campy / ISO Taper
92 [not a standard size]
102
105
108
110.5
115Would it be better going for the 115 ISO?
If not, what's the best way of converting an ISO bb axle to JIS bb to be used with an ISO crank?
What are opinions of Dura Ace Octalink?
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• #604
^ what cranks are you using?
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• #605
^ what cranks are you using?
if you meant me, I have some miche primatos i will be installing, but i like the look of Omniums but they require a different BB. Would this fit the Langsters frame?
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• #606
If me, the same DA 7600 cranks
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• #607
What are opinions of Dura Ace Octalink?
Nice but pricey. The track version of the BB (BB-7710) uses cartridge bearings, the road version (BB-7700) uses needle/ball bearings that are notoriously bad in wet weather. The axle length / dimensions are the same though, either works with the track cranks.
The 7710 BB is sold as "unsealed" too though, despite the cartridge bearings, so it might be something to avoid for an all-weather bike. Though I bet it would still last longer than an Omnium GXP BB.
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• #608
If you just wanted a normal cartridge-bearing square taper BB, wouldn't the good old 111mm Campag BB (e.g. the Centaur one) do the job? 7600 take the same sized BB as Sugino 75s, right?
Otherwise: https://www.lfgss.com/post3930223-716.html
See if there's an ISO option for ~2mm less than you currently use.
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• #609
This seems like the right place. What grease should I pack the frame where the BB goes with?
Normal grease or copper slip? Or should I just copper slip the threads?
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• #610
if you meant me, I have some miche primatos i will be installing, but i like the look of Omniums but they require a different BB. Would this fit the Langsters frame?
for the miches, this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/miche-primato-track-bottom-bracket/ or this http://www.totalcycling.com/a-z/bottom_brackets/bottom_brackets_track/BB_KINEX.html?gclid=CPqRmL_e5roCFU7KtAodgUgAAw works fine, your langseter shell will be BSA thread, 68mm wide, you just have to make sure your bottom bracket is like that too
If me, the same DA 7600 cranks
da 7600's are designed to work with a 109mm iso bb, the 111mm iso ones are as close as you can get, i have one here for sale http://www.lfgss.com/thread116579.html it'll put the chainline off by 1mm but that little doesn't really affect anything, have a look at the "database" and you'll see most people use 111mm iso axle bb's
as for using a jis bottom bracket on iso cranks, it is possible but there's no real point if there's better options about...
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• #611
Thanks. I just bought a Shimano BB of that length. Will this not work?
UN55 english thread...
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• #612
it'll put your chainline out by 4-4.5mm, all shimano bb's are jis tapered at the end but miche/campagnolo/njs bb's are iso tapered at the ends meaning that the cranks sit further out by 4-4.5mm
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• #613
Nice but pricey. The track version of the BB (BB-7710) uses cartridge bearings, the road version (BB-7700) uses needle/ball bearings that are notoriously bad in wet weather. The axle length / dimensions are the same though, either works with the track cranks.
The 7710 BB is sold as "unsealed" too though, despite the cartridge bearings, so it might be something to avoid for an all-weather bike. Though I bet it would still last longer than an Omnium GXP BB.
What is fucking me is the level hub I'm using which has a messed up 45mm chain line hence the requirement for an adjustable chainline.
I've just won a 7710 crank and BB but I stupidly didn't stop to ask if the bb chain line is adjustable at all. Can it be adjusted or am I looking at spacers?
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• #614
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• #615
Ah, right. No, the 7710 BBs aren't adjustable in terms of chainline. The splines stop a set length down the axle and that's where the crank bottoms out.
The left-hand cup uses an old-school lockring type of affair, where you tighten the cup until the axle stops turning freely, back it off a bit, and then hold it there with the special tool while you tighten the lockring. See the techdoc (PDF) for details.
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• #616
Think I've got it:
109.5mm DA bb gives 42mm chain line (octalink)
I need 45mm. That's an additional 3mm chainline (x2 for symmetry) + 109.5mm = 115.6mm bb in an ideal world.
The options in bb lengths are: 113mm and 118mm:
option 1
113 - 109.5 = 3.5mm /2 = 1.75mm addition to the 42mm chainline = 43.75mm-1.25mm too short.
option 2
118 - 109.5 = 8.5mm /2 = 4.25mm addition to the 42mm chainline = 46.25
+1.25 too long.
I guess the latter option is better as I can use spacers for the level bolt-on sproket. Unless I've missed something?
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• #617
option 2 looks right and these should be good spacers http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/product/54/cridsd/id-outer-chainring-spacers.html 1.2mm too
if you do go back to the fc-7600's then a 115mm iso bottom bracket would give a perfect chainline with a level hub
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• #618
^Ta
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• #619
I have a Hatta R9400 bottom bracket on my vivalo, and it's developed lateral play three times. Each time i've taken it to micycle, and then play has developed again. I'm not sure how old the BB is as it came with the frame. You can feel the play at the places i put my feet when i skid, so that's what it's caused by i reckon, or the BB is old. Is this normal? Or should i buy a new BB? If so, which one? Thanks
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• #620
Should I pack my BB with grease when fitting a new BB or just grease the threads with copper slip?
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• #621
Looking for some advice. Putting together an old CB tandem. I scored a pair of LH Sakae tandem cranks. I'm trying to pair them with a Veloce triple RH crank for the rear. Looking at Shimano BB's but I'm not sure what length to try. I realise that the Campag Crank won't fit as far on the BB spindle so will probably be a bit trial & error, but what length do you reckon as a starting point ?
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• #622
Hello guys
I've a dumb newbie question.
I have a FSA Gimondi crankset with a 48T chainring.
It's a little bit too much for me, I'd like to put a 38 or 42 T chainring.Does any 130mm 5 bolt fit or do I have to order a specific one (there is not info on FSA website)
Thanks in advance
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• #623
these are your best option price wise and quality wise
http://velosolo.co.uk/shopcrank.htmlthe "VeloSolo CNC Road and Track Chainring SILVER anodized" will probably look quite good with the gimondi's but 48t to 38t is a bit of a massive jump if you're not changing your cog, maybe 46 or 44 would be a bit more of a progression?
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• #624
these are your best option price wise and quality wise
http://velosolo.co.uk/shopcrank.htmlthe "VeloSolo CNC Road and Track Chainring SILVER anodized" will probably look quite good with the gimondi's but 48t to 38t is a bit of a massive jump if you're not changing your cog, maybe 46 or 44 would be a bit more of a progression?
Thanks a lot !!!!!
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• #625
I'm trying to remove a shimano style BB but the teeth of the tool don't seem to slot far enough in to engage properly so I can't get it out. Any tips?
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Royce + EAI = kowalski
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record 111mm (80's) + Phil + Phil = tristoo
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Hub + Phil Cog = Sparky's Fuji
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Athena + Phils (Hub and cog) (+ Fizik bar tape) = Jonny
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Pista + Campag Pista = Platini
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record + Royce + eai = briankwan
Campagnolo Pista '81 + Campag 109 + Record LF hubs+ Phil cog = Skully
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Ambrosio + Phil Wood = Sano
Campagnolo Pista + Specialities TA + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = VelocityBoy
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Araya + Phil Wood = 50/14
Campagnolo PIsta + Campag Veloce 111mm + System-EX + Condor = hladik
Campagnolo Pista + Veloce 111mm + Surly + Miche = EEI
Campag Record Pista - Campag Centaur 111mm - Campag Record Pista - Phil Wood - the-smiling-buddha
Campag Record Pista + Record Pista + Record Pista + EAI = RYunge
Campag Record Pista + Record pista + Record Pista + Dura ace = gizmond
Campag Record Pista + Token tiramic 111mm + Ambrosio + Phil Wood + VO sewn-on elkhide= Smallfurry (BB asymmetric, buggerit)
Campag Record Pista + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5 + Phil Wood + EAI = Jonesy
Campag Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Dura Ace Hb7600 + Dura Ace = Cornelius Blackfoot
Campagnolo Record Pista+Campagnolo Centaur 111mm+Miche Primato+Condor CNC=Cosmonaut
Campagnolo Record Pista+Stronglight 110 ISO+Campag Record Road screw on with large spacer swapped from DS to NDS+Trialtech Sport=Mitre_Tester
Campagnolo Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Royce + On-One (& others) = BMMF
Campagnolo Record + miche 111mm + Mack + Phil Wood = drøn
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Campag Record Pista + EAI = entwidomela
Campagnolo Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Campag Record Pista + Tranzmission = upstart
Campag Super Record Pista + Record Pista + Dura Ace 7600 HF + Condor = M-X
Campagnolo Strada + Campag Veloce 111m + Phil Wood + Surly = roger
Campagnolo Record Pista + Campagnolo Centaur 111mm + Formula + Phil Wood = arantrek
Campag Record Pista +Campag Centuar 111m + On One + Condor = Sainsburys Ed
Campag C Record Pista + Campag Veloce 115mm (needed, tight Q-factor and fat stays, bit out but still works) + Phil + Phil = maxcrowe
Campagnolo Super Record + Campagnolo Veloce 115mm + Miche Primato + EAI = crispin_glover
Campagnolo Record Double + Tifosi ISO English 102mm + 120mm Suzue Promax = chriscofferson
Campagnolo chorus road double with velosolo ring inside the spider + 102mm campag chorus BB + halo aerotrack + EAI = JordanCarroll (0.5mm out i guess makes no difference)
Dotek:
Dotek cheapy + Campag Mirage + Formula + Dura-Ace = fc9k
Dotek FG-PRO6-170 + BBUN26 68x113mm + OnOne small flange double fixed hub + Miche1/8sprocket = xroads (42mm chainline with chainring on inner side of spider, chainguard on outer side)
Dura-Ace:
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = hassanr
Dura-Ace + UN72/110mm + Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Object
Dura-Ace + UN53/107mm + Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
Dura-Ace + UN54/107mm + Dura Ace + Phil = Shinscar
Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace BB-7610 + Dura-Ace 7600 + EAI = flickwg
Dura-Ace all the way baby... = dovoneil
Dura-Ace Old school 151 + UN54+ Sys Ex + On One= Eyebrows perfect (dangermouse)
Dura-Ace + UN54 110 + Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace = Charco
Dura-Ace + Stronglight JP400 + Phil + Andel = euan
Dura Ace 7402 (road, machined off) + Miche Pista + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = jetski
Dura Ace 7600 + Campag Veloce 115.5 + Level (45mm chainline) = M-X
Dura Ace 7600 + Dura Ace 7610 (109mm) + Royce + EAI = wools
Dura Ace 7600 + Campagnolo Pista 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = maxcrowe
Dura Ace 7600 + UN54 107mm + Miche Primato + Sugino Gigas = Mech_Vandal
Dura Ace 7600 + TA Axix Light + Gran Compe + Condor = photoben
Dura-Ace 7600 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Surly = Dayno
Dura-Ace 7600 + UN54/107mm + Novatec + some shit = Ant
Dura-Ace 7600 + UN54/107mm + BLB hub + EAI - ummar01
Dura-Ace 7600 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Surly = Dayno
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 (109.5) + Dura Ace HB7600 + Dura Ace 1/8 = RPM dura-fuckin-ace.
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 + Dura Ace HB7600 + EAI = town
Dura-Ace 7710 + Sugino 75 chainring + Dura-Ace 7700 109.5mm BB + Dura-Ace 7600 hub + Sugino Sprocket = Dammit
Dura Ace 7710 + Shimano 105 109.5mm + suzue pro max + condor = liquidsky59
Miche:
Miche 70's road double + Shit JIS 107mm + Formula + EAI = dbr (+0.2mm)
Miche Primato + Campagnolo 111mm + Miche hub + EAI = Well, is it.
Miche + Miche +Miche + Andel + Miche = fixedfreak (max)
Miche + Campag Record 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Miche + campag centaur 111mm + formula + surly (~fred)
Miche + Miche + Velosteel coaster = gizmond
Miche + Campag Record 109mm + Phil + Phil = gizmond
Miche + Miche + Navigator Pista + EAI = gizmond also
Miche + Sugino + Miche + EAI = Shinscar (surly)
Miche Primato Pista + Shimano UN54/110mm + Formula + Dura Ace = CHUG_IT
Miche Primato Pista + Miche 107mm + On-One + EAI = ummar01
Miche Primato Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Formula + EAI = ummar01
Miche (Condor-branded) + Miche 107mm (cups adjusted 2mm towards drivechain) + Goldtec + EAI 1/8" = eeehhhh {46mm chainline}
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Goldtec + Condor = Buddha Fingaz
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Miche + Miche = Buddha Fingaz
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Condor(IRO) + Surly = edscoble
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche = Hovis Brown
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche Pista = 50/14
Miche Primato Advanced + Shimano UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI = hamster
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Mavic 520 Piste + Roselli = entwidomela
Miche Primato Advanced + Campagnolo Veloce 111mm + Miche + Surly(+ 1mm spacer) = oge
Miche Advanced + Miche + Gran Compe + DA = VED
Miche Advanced + Miche + phil wood + DA = VED
Miche Primato Advanced + miche 107 + Halo + EAI = philxthomas
Miche Advanced + Miche + Dia Compe Grand Compe + EAI = gizmond
Miche Advanced + Campagnolo Athena adjustable 111mm + Dia Compe Gran Compe + Miche Primato = a|s (although my driveside chainstay is out of whack by 5mm or so)
Miche Primato Advanced + fyxomantosis chainring 49t + royce titanium + phil wood 16t + fizik = germanmarc
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + system ex + Andel = sorethroat
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + zenith/formula/systemex + velo solo = velo libre
Miche Primato Advanced + Shimano Un54 + GoldTec + EAI = Clockwork_Killa
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107 + Planet X Pista + Dura Ace = OSR
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107 + Miche + Velosolo = Robin Goodfellows
Miche Primato Advanced (TA Specialites C'ring) + Miche 107 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Sebinho9
Miche Primato Advanced + Shimano UN55 107 (sic!) ITA + Halo + Miche = EEI
Stronglight:
Format: Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
Stronglight + UN53/107mm + Sys-X + Formula= MA3K
Stronglight + Shimano UN73/110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Stronglight + Stronglight + SystemEx + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Stronglight + UN72/107mm + Miche + EAI = Richard Cheese (all 3/32)
Stronglight + Shitmano UN54/118mm + Goldtec + Surly/EAI (on 130mm dropouts for 50mm chainline, Pomino, Genesis singlespeed etc..)= RPM
Stronglight + Sugino / 103mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" = Superprecise
Stronglight ST1000 + UN54/107mm + SystemEx + EAI = ummar01
Stronglight ST-1000 + Shimano Dura Ace 7500 / 107mm + unknown french cog (44mm chainline) = Tychom
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" (42mm chainline) = Spiny
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Goldtec + Condor = lightindustrialunit
Stronglight 49a (vintage) + 49t Williams chainring (vintage) + VP Components BV-55P 127.5mm + Surly new + surly 19t = mc_nebula
Sugino 75:
Sugino 75 + Miche + Condor (non Goldtec) + Dura Ace = brett
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = d.mac ( if it ever comes back from Condor....)
Sugino 75 + Miche + Campag + DA = gizmond
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Wapping Warrior
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood 108mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = exedanni
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood 110.5mm + Phil Wood + EAI Superstar = Object
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood 110.5mm + Goldtech + Phil Wood = Dancing James
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood 110.5mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = apollo (1)
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = dasmiller
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = shootthebreeze
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Level + Level 1/8th Cog = kiptinui (proper smooth)
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = 1000aa
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Dura-Ace = 1000aa
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Halo + Dura-Ace = 1000aa
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Halo + Soma = 1000aa
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + Surly = apollo (2)
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + Surly = Muleboy
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = jon_a
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = dogsballs
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI= 31t®um
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = Broker
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= adoubletap + fred
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= biles
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = maxcrowe
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Buddha Fingaz
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + EAI = mattty
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Mavic Ellipse + EAI = mattty
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue ProMax LB + EAI = chatters
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + Phil Wood + EAI = jaygee
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + Phil Wood + EAI = Rascal
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + Formula + Dura Ace = TooTallTim
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + MACK + EAI = 31t®um
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = works
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + EAI Superstar = jaygee
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Surly = Dannoleeed
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Mavic Ellipse + Dura Ace = tick.tick.tick
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Formula + Dura Ace = Robin Goodfellows
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + Dura-ace= Build
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Campagnolo C.Record + Sugino Gigas = moose76
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Dura Ace + EAI = mikec
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) +Gran Compe + EAI = MatP
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + Royce (120mm) + EAI = daimonic
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino 75 + Shimano + Condor Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Nimhbus
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace (109mm) + Phil Wood + EAI regular (euro asia imports) = moose76
Sugino 75 + Royce 103mm JIS + Royce + EAI Superstar = welpeur
Sugino 75 + Stronglight + Phil Wood + Dura Ace (+ cut down odyssey grips) = jonny
Sugino 75 + miche 107mm + miche primato + crap 3/32 = Gareth_lindsay
Sugino 75 + Gipiemme Pista + Formula + Surly = Sumo
Sugino Messenger/RD:
Sugino RD2 Messenger + RPM 103mm JIS + Aerospoke + Miche 15T = Vince
Sugino RD2 Messenger + RPM 103mm JIS + Formula (Varno Built) + Miche 15T= Vince
Sugino Messenger + Sugino 103mm + Phil Wood + EAI = mattty
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood = chris crash
Sugino Messenger + Shimano + Ambrosio + Condor = Shinscar (clown)
Sugino Messenger + Sugino/103mm + Goldtec + DA = VED (perfect)
Sugino Messenger + Sugino + Hope track + EAI = Aleksi
Sugino Messenger + Shimano + Halo + Shimano dura ace = Ivandaterrible
Sugino Super Mighty + Sugino 109 + Dura Ace + Phil Wood = Dayno
Sugino RD + Sugino + Ambrosio + Miche = asm } both are pretty much spot on
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Sys-X + Dura Ace = MA3K
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Dura Ace/Andel = ChrisNW {44 front, 42 rear}
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Halo + Halo = Hotwls
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + OnOne = -=Mike=-
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Surly O.L.D. + Surly/Miche/Dicta = ShannonBall
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + Dura Ace = Pifko
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Sys Ex + Miche = Eightball69
Sugino RD + UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI= hamster
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Formula track hub +Miche sprocket (Miche lockring will no fit this hub) = gtvlusso
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Gran Compe + Token/Andel = Balki
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Gran Compe + Velo Solo = Rascal
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Phil Wood + EAI = Rascal
Sugino RD (On inside ring) + Sugino/103mm+ Formula + Surly = entwidomela
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + Andel = welpeur
Sugino RD (on inside ring) + Shimano UN54 107mm + Goldtec + Condor = Buddha Fingaz
Sugino RD + Shimano UN54 107mm + Formula + Shimano Freewheel (and 2.5mm behind freewheelspacers) = ummar01
Misc.:
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Dura-Ace Track 7710 + Miche 16T = Vince
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Formula + EAI = Jaimes
Andel + Tange 110.5 + Formula + Surly = Numeryk
Andel/BLB + Sugino 103mm + zenith/formula + surly = dinosaur
Andel + Shimano UN54 + phil woods + andel = liquidsky59
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Mack lowflange ss = thiscocks
Campagnolo Double + Shimano + Formula + DA = Tobyprice
Campagnolo Record time trial + FAG Nadax + SJS + Beans Cycles = BlueQuinn
Campagnolo road double (Croce D'Aune) + 111mm ACH + Goldtec + Miche or On One or Surly or EAI 3/32nd = AlexB
Campagnolo road double (Chorus) with chainring inside spider + 107mm Miche Primato (slight offset to NDS) + Halo + BLB or Dura-Ace (frankenstein transmission, but perfect chainline) = upstart
Campagnolo Veloce Double + Campag Veloce + SystemEx = Hovis Brown
Campagnolo Veloce Triple + Campag Veloce + Goldtec + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Campag Veloce UT+Record UT+Mavic Ellipse+Phil Wood/EAI Gold Medal=Mitre_Tester
FSA Carbon Track Pro + FSA Platinum Pro BB + Mack Double Fixed Track Hub + DA Track Cog + KMC Superlight Chain = Dov
FSA Carbon Track Pro (new style) + FSA BB + profile + Miche pro = fred
FSA Vero + 110mm cheapo cartridge + Dura-Ace/SurlyFixer/Shimano LX = N3lson
FSA Vero + Shimano UN54 110mm + System EX + On-One = Buddha Fingaz
FSA Vero+Shimano UN54+Miche Pistard+Deda=east end images
FSA Vero+Gebhardt 1/8 CR+Sugino 103 BB+Formula Hub+Condor Cog = hoonz
FSA Vero + Shimano UN54 107mm + Goldtec + Miche = krakow
FSA Vigorelli + ISIS BB of indeterminate width + Phil + Condor = hippynice
FSA Vigorelli + FSA ISIS BB 108mm + Surly + BLB = EEI
Gipiemme Pista + Gipiemme 109 + Gipiemme + Campagnolo = ingranite
Gipiemme Pista + Campag 111mm + Mavic + Dura-Ace (also Goldtec + Miche) = ondine
Gusset Pygmy 853 (gusset chainwheel) + Gusset Euro bb (145mm spindle) + Goldtec + EAI = hassanr
IRD Defiant + Shimano UN54 110mm + Formula + Andel = OSR
IRD (Interlock Racing) Defiant + Shimano UN54 107mm + Dia Compe Gran + EAI = Weslito (Use a 107mm JIS for 42mm chainline, not 110mm as IRD advise)
Lasco Chainset + Tange 103mm + SJSc hub + Dicta Threaded = Branwen
Mavic Fluted Road Double (Inner Ring Lip Filed Off) + Campagnolo Chorus 102mm BB + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Pistoffski
Middleburn RS1+ Shimano XT 68 113mm + White Bros Eno + Surly/ Miche = tommid
Mighty (£15 ebay) + Shimano un54 122.5mm + sjsc hub+ sjsc cog = ile
Nervar + Tange 115mm + Zenith + Surly (3/32" chain) = gwEm
Ofmega 49t + Campag + Miche + DA = Tobyprice
Ofmega 52 tooth + Shimano/110mm Italian thrd + Formula + Surly = P!MP(somehow it works)
Ofmega mistral(TA chainring) + token + goldtec + eai/Roselli = Clockwork_killa
Pake + UN54 107mm + SJS/Formula + Miche = Frankie_j
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + Surly = yorkiefix
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + paul + phil = flickwg, nosferatu BIG UP PAUL COMP
Paul + Phil Wood 110.5mm + Phil Wood + Dura Ace = richoking
Paul Comp + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5mm + Paul Comp + Surly = Jonesy
Profil Race Cranks with Gusset Chainring, Profile Euro BB, Philwood, Philwood = Object
Profile Race Cranks + Profile Imperial Chainring + Profile Euro BB + Profile Ti Mini Mag spindle + Phil Wood Kissoff + Surly = Schwarz
RPM + Shimano UN54/110mm + Condor (non-Goldtec) + Condor = Brett
Raceface Decadence + Raceface Cadence X-Type + Formula + Token = Kinsella
Schwinn Stingray + FSA 110mm JIS + Quando flip flop hub + dura ace cog 1/8 = ile
Shimano 600 + UN54/110mm+ Suzue SIL-SP track hub + Miche 1/8 sprocket. =DFP
Shimano 600 + UN54/110mm + Goldtec 126mm track hub + 3/32 EAI = Prime heretic
Shimano 600 Road Double + Shimano 107mm + System Ex + a cog (possibly) = hippy TI Raleigh
Shimano 600 road double(gebhardt chainring) + Shimano 107mm + Systemex +cheapy cog = BrianClose
Shimano sora double + Prestine threadless 110.5 + on-one dble fixed + on one = Bernhard (42mm I think)
Shimano Sora (Double - Inside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN54/107mm + Novatech Hubs + Miche = Pifko
Shimano 105 (Double - inside mounted chainring) + 105 Hollowtech + Formula + Shimano BMX freewheel = ctznsmith
Shimano 105 (Double - inside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN54/110mm + Suzue Basic + Ambrosio = Specialist
Shimano 105 (Double - outside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN72/ 107mm + Shimano XT front disc hub (from Velosolo) spaced to 120mm undished + 5mm spacers behind cog + Velosolo bolt on cog = welpeur
Shimano Exage EX300 double (ring on outer side)+ Shimano un 71 113mm + Formula=ile
Shimano Nexus NX60+Campagnolo+Campagnolo Record Pista+Campagnolo Record Pista(+Silva)=east end images
SRAM Red (small ring on outer) + GXP + Goldtec + EAI 3/32 = 46.5mm = welpeur
SR Apex 165 (118bcd) + Shimano UN54/115mm + System Ex (Condor) + Dura-Ace = cold blow
SR Apex 170 (144bcd) (with Chainring inside spider) + YST threadless 119mm BB + On-One +Surly = A EF
SR Sakae + Shimano UN54/118mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Andel = ChrisNW {42mm}
SR Royal + Veloce 111mm + some cog + Campagnolo +EEI
Sturmey Archer FCT62 + Tange 68 x 103mm + Surly 3/32" + Halo = AndyMedic
Sugino XD silver TRIPLE + UN54/107mm + Dura-Ace 1/8" + Goldtec = rogerzilla (46.5mm, chainring on inside of crank)
Sugino XD black DOUBLE + UN54/107mm + Dura-Ace 1/8" + Goldtec = rogerzilla (46.5mm, chainring on OUTSIDE of crank this time)
SR Sakae Apex + Campagnolo Veloce + Miche + Dura Ace (+ macneil traveler grips) = Joao+BCN
Sugino Langster Speciales + Sugino 103mm + System Ex + Ye Olde Englishe Coge = hippymess
Sugino Maxy + 3SB (121.5mm asymmetric) cup&cone + Miche + EAI = welpeur
Sugino Super Maxy + Tange 115mm (with 1mm BB Spacer) + Zenith (same as Formula etc) + Surly = A EF
Suntour Superbe Pro + Phil 108mm JIS + Dura Ace = tick.tick.tick
Suntour Superbe Pro (Velosolo 48t chainring) + Token 102mm ISO + Suntour Superbe Pro hub (screw-on) + generic cog = 45mm chainline = leylandp38
Suntour Superbe Pro + Suntour Superbe 109mm + Suntour Superbe + Roselli = hoarsehorse
TA + TA(314) + Campag + Miche = Fruitbat
TA Alize Piste+Stronglight 110 ISO+Goldtec+Miche=Mitre_Tester
TA Cyclotourist + Stronglight + On One + Condor
Truvativ + (??) stock bianchi pista + phil wood + EAI = asm }
SRAM/GXP
SRAM S300 1.1 + GXP BB cups + 'Raleigh Build' Crap Generic Hub on Mach 1 Omega factory build junk + EAI = Ninjaslim
SRAM S300 1.1 + GXP BB cups + King Kong 219R Hub (130 mm) + Shimano freewheel = 42 mm chainline = Carson
Truvativ Omnium + Truativ GXP External BB cups + On-One Hubs + Miche/Dura-Ace = Pifko
Truvativ Omnium + Truativ GXP External BB cups + Condor Uno + Miche/Dura-Ace = Pifko
Truvativ Omnium+Truvativ GXP+Navigator Pista+Miche=Mitre_Tester's sister-in-law
Truvativ Omnium + Truativ GXP + Bontrager Aeolus 5.0+Dura Ace = Sainsburys Ed
Truvativ Omnium + Truvativ GXP + BLB/Formula + Planet X = Björn
Truvativ(SRAM) Omnium + Truvativ GXP + Quando (same as Forumula etc.) + Surly = 43mm chainline = karlson
Truative Omnium + Truative GXP + Novatech + On One = Winch25 (both GXP spacers - drive side)
On-one Track Cranks + CK GXP road + Phil + Phil = 1000aa
On-one Track Cranks + CK GXP road + Phil + Campagnolo = 1000aa
On-one Track Cranks + CK GXP road + Halo + Phil = 1000aa
On-one Track Cranks + CK GXP road + Halo + Dura Ace = 1000aa
White Industries + Phil + Milwaukee(Ben's) + EAI = Archi Pelago
White Industries + Phil 111mm + White Industries + White Industries = Rod Munch
White Industries + Phil 111mm+ LeVeL 135 + LeVeL = Eyebrows 47mm chainline
White Industries + Shimano/110mm + Phils + White Industries = big daddy wayne
Zeus Pista (circa 80's) + Campag Pista 109mm + Formula + Miche = tristoo