To all Bob Jackson owners....

^^fistful of knowledge there.. Standover clearance is for MTBs.
@ sparky - Try pjs 58, vrlocity boys 60, and consider.. but bear in mind the adjustments available to make them fit.
Nice frames, lucky buggers!

pj

but yes, i know what you're saying. i think you may be being a bit angry/mardy

i have a vague belief that people 'as a rule', especially when starting out, tend to go for bikes that are too big for them. this is why i offer this advice. all of this is negated by the vagaries of bike sizing, and if you have a deformed torso and arms longer than your legs you may need slightly different dimensions.

Not angry, maybe a bit sarcastic though. I kinda believe the opposite than you and that a lot of people in the FG scene are riding bikes that are too small for them. To be honest, someone doing their research like the OP is probably gonna get some good advice and first hand experiences from people on here which are gonna help them make the right decision. With the two of us pulling in different directions then he should be bang on!

it's a 57/8. oh and i can't see your pictures at work, but your bikes look too big for you, that's for sure.

haha - nice one. BTW, when you see the last photo you'll realise why I said that track bikes should like it. It's not just the size, it's the fact that the bike is beautiful.

ah ah ah....

:)

i bought an aeropost for my vigorelli, but it didn't give me enough height, mayeb an inch too short.

i can't open the last image at work, but it looks gash.