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pj there is already a langster thread on here with some choice comments, some of them by me, and roxy's comments are quite tame in comparison.
langsters are an abomination.
No, they're just an OTP fixed wheel bike. (That might carry you 5000+ miles in a year, teach you how to pedal and climb hills properly, change your whole conception of cycling, develop that interest to the point of obsession and help you raise £$€ for charidy.)
This is an abomination:
OK, my nicked langster is being replaced by a 2008 and I'm selling it straight away, but still.....
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If you hate langsters you are going to love (and when i say love i mean hate) my next bike, which should be ready for the cambridge ride.
@lpg: lol, i love the idea of a bike spontaneously exploding... the sad thing is most langsters would probably do it out of boredom, wishing their owners would flip the damn back wheel....
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hippy Yeah Langster comments are too harsh.. geometry is wrong blah.. from people that've never ridden one.
They're being judged on aesthetics and frame material nothing more. Gotta get that insurance sorted out..true, i've ridden my mate's 2005 langster and it's actually not bad apart from the fact that he's shorter than me and the saddle height is wrong... it certainly doesn't feel as nice as the steel bike i built myself but it really isn't bad to be honest. though i have to say the poo brown and the gothic typography is really bad AND the london langster is just plain WRONG.
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What about tynan's Argon18? As it's all looks with most people here.. they look sweet.. unless you're into lugs I guess.
I'd not leave it anywhere unlike a Twatster coz it stands out like a mofo but appearance-wise it leaves most of the 1970s 531 frames (zzzzz...) for dead.
Put that in your pipe, throw on your slippers and enjoy. :P -
look at it this way:
man wants an alloy frame, should he buy an alloy frame from (arguably) the leading bike manufacturer worldwide, with a proven design and excellent warranty?
or should he buy a budget frame bodged together with birdshit and chewing gum by some italians who needed to jump on the street fix bandwagon right quick?
ok, so it's a bit harsh on the EAI but you can see my point. it's not simply an alloy version of the bareknuckle, it has different geometry.
if it comes down to colour:
the brassknuckles come in nice plain colours, the twatsers certainly do not.
but, look at brett, 31trum and others..many miles covered on their langsters and never a groan.
from looking at pictures, it appears the EAI has slightly steeper head tube and seat tube angles, it also looks like it's got a higher BB, so more "tracky" geometry.
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edmundane [quote]hippy Yeah Langster comments are too harsh.. geometry is wrong blah.. from people that've never ridden one.
They're being judged on aesthetics and frame material nothing more. Gotta get that insurance sorted out..true, i've ridden my mate's 2005 langster and it's actually not bad apart from the fact that he's shorter than me and the saddle height is wrong... it certainly doesn't feel as nice as the steel bike i built myself but it really isn't bad to be honest. though i have to say the poo brown and the gothic typography is really bad AND the london langster is just plain WRONG.[/quote]
My flatmate used to have a langster, (though I bet you couldn't get her to admit it!) it fit me, I rode it. The ride is certainly not anything to write home about. And yes, I believe that loving your bike (aethestically or otherwise) means you'll ride it more and that's good. And if you can buy an OTS ugly bike with an ok ride, or you can buy a OTS not-ugly bike with an ok ride then why go ugly?
Anyone who actually sells a bike and says it comes in "rust" colour has no idea what cyclists are looking for. -
Well, i think that judging by the fact that it's the best selling, most well known OTS fixed wheel bike, i'd say they've got what cyclists are looking for pretty well nailed.
I think a lot of peoples' main aversion to the langster has more to do with the fact that it's made by a big american corporation...
..in the far east.
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What are your thoughts on the brass knuckle frame as a first bike
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Teamrod, with all the questions you've asked and the fact that you've even found this forum you clearly shouldn't be buying OTS. You've pretty much just built a bike in your head in the course of this thread. Of course that's a lot easier than physically doing it. But the great thing about fixed is that it's about most simple machine. I personally think that the great thing about forums like this is that beginners can have support. Of course telling beginners to buy OTS keeps ebay/jumble costs down for those of us who are looking for "real" frames....
Also I'm just going to state a personal opinion here, LANGSTERS ARE FRICKIN' UGLY AS F*CK. Sorry, we can hide behind politeness but please, their geometry is all wrong. They are fat and awkward and what's with that stupid sloping top tube, ugh! They don't know what they're supposed to be. I'd call them a hybrid but they're not, they're like a lobrid of mountain bikes, bmx and road bikes.....ugh.
Can I start a thread about this?
Ok apologies time. I'm sorry to everyone who owns a langster. really I am. As long as you ride a bike you're great in my book. I have friends that ride uglier bikes than a langster (though I've never seen an uglier fixie).
Teamrod, if you really don't want to build your own, fair enough. But first look at IRO, look at Lemond ( http://www.lemondbikes.com/bikes/track/classic_steel/fillmore.php ), and has anyone mentioned Bianchi Pista's? Fair enough those forks are horrible but they are such a nicer bike than the Langster. They are good value for money as well.
It's your aesthetics that matter here, I know you said you want a chunky bike in which case I would say your only choice is the Brass Knuckle route.
To be honest I had never heard of a "brass" knuckle but apparently it's the same as the bare knuckle only alu not steel. It looks like a very generic frame (in a good way) which means that you can, through the components you choose, give it your own personality. Rather than a Langster that's always just going to be a Langster.
No matter what, before you buy, maybe you should come to something like bike polo on Sunday where you can view in the flesh loads of different fixies and talk to their owners. It's hard to know what to do when you don't get to handle all the different options out there.
Apologies again to the Langster owners out there. Don't hate me because I'm honest....and right. ;-p