Gear ratio effect on stopping/skidding

Dang: it's about £500 (=/-) by the looks of it. Beautiful looking frame though.

cheapest I've seen is 450

here http://www.parker-international.co.uk/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/6379/groupID/6/categoryID/67/v/05a3fa97-fb46-4b22-a33d-f622eb25fd96

Edwardes in Camberwell have Cinelli Vigs for £400-ish

2 Vigorelli frames for sale on British Cycling for £350 each

I have five in my big coat. The all fell off the back of Kanye West. Yours for a tenner?

Speedwolf: Welcome! Nice introduction there. It's an addictive thing collecting bike parts! There are some great threads on here about recently opened vintage shops. One in east london really piqued my interest.

However, the best place for vintage parts remains the Internet. Campyoldy.com is a great place, and ebay is also good.

Roberto/Jos have a stash (literally) of vintage parts. They're both forum members, I'm sure they'll get back to you if you drop them a PM. They're probably the cheapest (...well possibly) place to pick up a lovely steel track frame. If you have a little more cash, check out Cavendish Cycles - they often have a good range of cool frames.

Alternatively I have this currently for sale. A few people have been interested, but no one has claimed it yet. It'll be cheaper than anything Jos or Roberto have (with track ends), but maybe not as cheap as you're wanting.

PM me an offer though, if you're interested :)

Whilst we're skidding, Jason Kenny bringing it at the Olympics... fishtail steez

YouTube - Velodrome Skid Competition

yeah, get the gear inches down, plus watch some skids comps on youtube and check out the body position - theyre like as far out in front of the bars as they can be, while still touching pedal. i must admit, its a strange thing throwing your weight like your trying to face plant, but its the way, er, forward .

indeed the way foward. if you actually want to stop, lean back after commencing skid or spin wheel in reverse etc..

I have five in my big coat. The all fell off the back of Kanye West. Yours for a tenner?

Speedwolf: Welcome! Nice introduction there. It's an addictive thing collecting bike parts! There are some great threads on here about recently opened vintage shops. One in east london really piqued my interest.

However, the best place for vintage parts remains the Internet. Campyoldy.com is a great place, and ebay is also good.

Roberto/Jos have a stash (literally) of vintage parts. They're both forum members, I'm sure they'll get back to you if you drop them a PM. They're probably the cheapest (...well possibly) place to pick up a lovely steel track frame. If you have a little more cash, check out Cavendish Cycles - they often have a good range of cool frames.

Much appreciated - thanks for the suggestions!

I'll keep my eyes peeled here for parts. I have a nice one from Brick Lane Cycles...but still really want to put my own thing together.

Cheers!

Bought some wheels tother day, came with a choice of 15t or 16t on the back.

What can anyone recommend for on the front, something versatile, but would enable few skids here and there? Its flat where I live.

thanks in advance

use the search function.

and you will find your answers.

aim for 65 - 70 GI use this http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gears/ to work out g.i

I think I can safely say, everyone would be in agreement that as long as your reverse gear is the same as your forward one everything will be fine.

42 x 16 gives around 69 gi and 8 skid patches,

talking about gear i need to upgrade my ring . . .

talking about gear i need to upgrade my ring . . .

worn out it out eh? expensive fix that, remember to ride gently in future.

I think I can safely say, everyone would be in agreement that as long as your reverse gear is the same as your forward one everything will be fine.

+rain

what I haven't really figured out is if I have the same gear inches but a different set-up on chainring and sprocket would it be exactly the same for ease of skidding. Example: 46x17 = 73 or 49x18 = 73, both same gear inches but would the one or the other be easier to skid or would it behave exactly the same?

what? again?

why why why

obviously the 49 would be easier to skid as you would have the ego boost from running a large chainring.

worn out it out eh? expensive fix that, remember to ride gently in future.

hmmmm nope . . . jus find it slow . . . want more speed like crack . . .

Be careful with that, my flatmate's just gone from 44/17 to 46/17... I think it's turned him mental, he pulled the windscreen wipers off a car that cut him up yesterday... He wants more speed too so getting a 48 on the front now... There will be carnage...

I chose my gearing for riding.

If I wanted it for skidding I'd go sub 50 GI

Be careful with that, my flatmate's just gone from 44/17 to 46/17... I think it's turned him mental, he pulled the windscreen wipers off a car that cut him up yesterday... He wants more speed too so getting a 48 on the front now... There will be carnage...

right now i got a 47/18 and its too slow for me . . . so im lookin at 52/18 . . .
cant be having foldup bikes passing me . . .

worn out it out eh? expensive fix that, remember to ride gently in future.

sorry, subtle 'busted ring' jokes dont work I guess.

I chose my gearing for riding.

If I wanted it for skidding I'd go sub 50 GI

I wanna see this!