Remember kids... always wear a helmet. (The almighty bikeradar helmet thread)

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aktuualllyyy!

Sorry I studied chemistry, too thick for physics (or grammer), knew it was something to do with catholisism.

i guess the "grammer" is "sic"

;P

Yep, all my grammer is sick.

I meant sick in a 'init bludz' type way... Rapping gram's.

He benefitted today from Petacchi going early, so he got a perfect lead out from him. Petacchi went early on purpose, he wanted points for the green jersey and didn't want to get boxed in so second or third was fine for him.

phrenological

I just bought a new helmet.

Giro Monza, if any one cares.

It may help me to benefit from others who go early for point and a green jumper.

You are all tossers, and this thread is totally redundant, not to say meaningless and a total waste of bandwidth. Everything that needs to be said is here

http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article/helmets

So shut it, you muppets. ,,,,,,

Is that enough commas for you?

Any helmet that is over 3 years old is no longer safe to use.

Bill, your article was written in October 2007, it'll soon not be safe to read. From observation I'd say helmet use has increased.

dont even understand why people even have to debate wearing a helmet. If i had been wearing my helmet 2 months a go i probably wouldnt be suffering from short term memory loss...and maybe half the scars on my face wouldnt be here now and i wouldnt of had the lenses from my glasses implanted in my cheeks. So what do ya think? Should i have been wearing my helmet or do you think i should have been like some of those hispter twats and looked in the mirror to see if i looked cool without my helmet before i went out that day. i wouldnt have met that driver who hit me then, hmm

dont even understand why people even have to debate wearing a helmet.

maybe you should read the thread. it is none of my concern whether you wear a helmet or not.

Implying that people who don't wear helmets are vain 'hipster twats' is hardly likely to get people to want to discuss the subject with you is it?

i bought a helmet today. i dont have a bike to use it with atm, but after a lot of thought, it's definitely better to be safe than sorry

it is none of my concern whether you wear a helmet or not.

+1 it's a persons own decision whether they wear a helmet or not. I consider myself to be an experienced cyclist, but after not hitting my head in the 14 years i have been riding
I can only think that for me it's probably gonna happen sooner or later

dont even understand why people even have to debate wearing a helmet. If i had been wearing my helmet 2 months a go i probably wouldnt be suffering from short term memory loss...and maybe half the scars on my face wouldnt be here now and i wouldnt of had the lenses from my glasses implanted in my cheeks. So what do ya think? Should i have been wearing my helmet or do you think i should have been like some of those hispter twats and looked in the mirror to see if i looked cool without my helmet before i went out that day. i wouldnt have met that driver who hit me then, hmm

A friend of mine cracked his head open from falling out of a bunk bed. If he had been wearing a helmet, he would not have been injured. Therefore we should all wear helmets in bed. If your argument works, so does mine.

The only, and I repeat ONLY, relevant factor in deciding whether helmets should be worn for an activity is the relative risk of serious head injury. If you are strongly advocating helmet use, then unless you have some data telling me that I am much more at risk of head injury cycling than doing $ACTIVITY, then your arguments are likely to be balony. If cycling is no more prone to head injuries than walking (say), then why pick on cyclists, why not advocate walking helmets unless you just have a groundless prejudice that cycling is more dangerous?

The question about whether cycling helmets are effective is only an interesting question if we have already decided that some kind of helmet is necessary. then the question is what kind of helmet should be worn. It is like me arguing that motorbike helmets are effective at preventing head injuries in the bathroom therefore we should wear motorbike helmets in the bathroom - its just a rubbish argument.

(btw, if you want to wear a helmet, then that is cool. But blindly advocating them for people based on rubbish reasoning is decidedly non-cool. mkay.)

dont even understand why people even have to debate wearing a helmet. If i had been wearing my helmet 2 months a go i probably wouldnt be suffering from short term memory loss...and maybe half the scars on my face wouldnt be here now and i wouldnt of had the lenses from my glasses implanted in my cheeks. So what do ya think? Should i have been wearing my helmet or do you think i should have been like some of those hispter twats and looked in the mirror to see if i looked cool without my helmet before i went out that day. i wouldnt have met that driver who hit me then, hmm

And if I had been wearing a helmet when I had my crash it would have made no difference. I landed on my chin, not any other part of my head, and there's the small possibility that had I been wearing a helmet, one of the bits that are generally sticking off of them would have caught on the ground and wrenched my head backwards.

That said, I've just purchased a Bern helmet with vents (cos I wanna stay cool, "innit") b/c there won't be any wrench possibility.

I was wearing my helmet when I broke my jaw- oddly enough as I landed on my jaw it made no difference to the outcome.

I'll still put it on this morning before I jump on the bike, on the principle that at the least it will stop me losing a lot of skin from road rash if I do go down- check out the photo's that Not4Sale put up after a car took him off his bike.

And in answer to the "well why don't you wear a helmet in the car" lobby- it's illegal to wear a helmet in a car in this country on a public road, the rally boys are meant to take them off between stages. There is also a strong argument that one of the main reasons to wear a helmet in a closed race car is to stop the roll cage from beating you to death in a roll over. You may gather from this that crashing in a car and crashing on a bike are rather different things.

dont even understand why people even have to debate wearing a helmet. If i had been wearing my helmet 2 months a go i probably wouldnt be suffering from short term memory loss...and maybe half the scars on my face wouldnt be here now and i wouldnt of had the lenses from my glasses implanted in my cheeks. So what do ya think? Should i have been wearing my helmet or do you think i should have been like some of those hispter twats and looked in the mirror to see if i looked cool without my helmet before i went out that day. i wouldnt have met that driver who hit me then, hmm

keywords here have been made bold. And that for me is the thing that causes all the discussion. If you were to wear a full face motorcycle helmet I don't think anyone would be arguing and it would have definitely saved your injuries, glasses going into face etc,.

Bicycle helmets clearly have to be made lighter, less hot etc, when compared to a 'proper' helmet but does that render them useless?

What an interesting debate, with novel and insightful arguments made on every page.

btw, if you want to wear a helmet, then that is cool. But blindly advocating them for people based on rubbish reasoning is decidedly non-cool. mkay.

Best sentence that has been said in this topic.

A friend of mine cracked his head open from falling out of a bunk bed. If he had been wearing a helmet, he would not have been injured. Therefore we should all wear helmets in bed. If your argument works, so does mine.

The only, and I repeat ONLY, relevant factor in deciding whether helmets should be worn for an activity is the relative risk of serious head injury. If you are strongly advocating helmet use, then unless you have some data telling me that I am much more at risk of head injury cycling than doing $ACTIVITY, then your arguments are likely to be balony. If cycling is no more prone to head injuries than walking (say), then why pick on cyclists, why not advocate walking helmets unless you just have a groundless prejudice that cycling is more dangerous?

The question about whether cycling helmets are effective is only an interesting question if we have already decided that some kind of helmet is necessary. then the question is what kind of helmet should be worn. It is like me arguing that motorbike helmets are effective at preventing head injuries in the bathroom therefore we should wear motorbike helmets in the bathroom - its just a rubbish argument.

(btw, if you want to wear a helmet, then that is cool. But blindly advocating them for people based on rubbish reasoning is decidedly non-cool. mkay.)

so your saying that you have just as much chance of getting hurt walking or falling from your bed than you do whilst riding a bike? was there a guard rail on the bunk bed your friend fell from? sounds like there wasnt..otherwise he wouldnt have fell, so in that case it was his fault. and as for walking and cycling being just as dangerous as each other...hmmm..now let me think, driving close to cars, busses and other heavy vehicles that dont usually give two shits about pulling out on you, cutting in front of you or just not even paying attention that you are even there...or walking on the pavement? my previous point was that if you fall from your bike (that you are much more likely to do than walking) (it doesnt take a genius or any amount of data to work that one out) and land on your head..the most important feature of yourself, then at least your head will be better off than it would have been without it. but most other fuckwits on here think its a good idea to question that and put even more reason not to wear a helmet into the heads of those who think its to un-cool to wear one. and personally i think thats fucking stupid.

Vicks NyQuil, that wasn't the point he's making.

The point is, there are a lots of situation where helmet greatly benefit from, such as driving a car, did you know if you wear a helmet in a car you'll be less likely to get head injuries etc. also worth reading the COH, especially this.

What you describe sound like you'll benefit from cycle training, rather than a good helmet.

And his advice at the last paragraph is the most sensible one, I suggest you should take it.

I wear a helmet because I fucking want to. Whatever the fuck you lot want to do, do it.
But don't you dare preach about not wearing a helmet.
I can safely say, that my neurologist, a keen cyclist, would advise it.
The dent in my skull concurs.

I fell off a bunk bed once, flat on my face and got two black eyes. A helmet would have been pointless. But I learnt that bunk beds were for sleeping and not playing monkeys.