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Boxing, MMA, gymnastics…

I’d count them all as real sports.

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I think I'll copy and paste your post EB if you don't mind :)

Alleged sports that are judged with points awarded based on the opinion of someone rather than something objective like a stopwatch.

Don't forget the other Olympic motto (not "Higher, faster, stronger."):-

Neater, prettier, tidier.

During one drunken pub evening we went through and redesigned most Olympic sports to satisfy the "Higher, faster, stronger" ethos, most things are amenable. I think we failed to come up with anything for Horse Dancing Dressage.

sports where the barrier to entry is so ludicrously high they really shouldn't have a place at the olympics or any sort of global competition for that matter.

again, i'm looking at you "Dressage".

Isn't that basically every sport?

again, i'm looking at you "Dressage".

Was having this chat with a horsey friend yesterday and was surprised to hear how the finance for dressage works for most people.

The GB rider, Dujardin, is from a comfortable middle class family in Leighton Buzzard, went to a comprehensive school and got into riding at a community pony club in Bedfordshire. She was talent spotted and a stables offered her the use of a horse for free on the understanding that if she succeeded on it, they would sell it to cash in on the increased value. This is why she's riding a new horse now. The stable owner who owned the horse she won her previous medals with sold it to a stud farm for £20m after Rio.

Anyway, apparently some of the riders do come from super rich families and learn to ride on their own horses but according to my friend (who has been riding all of her life), most riders are like lower paid jockeys....riding somebody else's horse to earn the stable money.

If anything, this makes it more fucked up for me. Dujardin's horse owner apparently spent £4m to get Dujardin to various competitions and has made a £16m profit out of it. Would hope that Dujardin had a contract clause that would give her a cut of that, seeing as she's why the horse is worth so much.

Edit: Article about the sale of her previous horse.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/double-olympic-gold-winner-charlotte-dujardin-speaks-of-the-heart-wrenching-ps20m-sale-of-her-wonder-horse-8130243.html

well... not really - pretty sure i don't need access to a stables, be related to the queen and a trust fund to chuck a thing / run around a thing / kick a thing.

As I just said, its a little worse than that. Most have to be indentured to a relative of the queen or a trust fund to dance on a horse to earn somebody else more money. Its fucked up!

yeah that's not a great look. It also appears to be overwhelmingly white - at least in the UK. Not sure if that's still the case elsewhere.

how much state sponsored funding does dressage receive?

The stable owner who owned the horse she won her previous medals with sold it to a stud farm for £20m after Rio.

Where did you get that information? The horse she rode to win in 2012 and 2016 is a gelding, so not that valuable to a stud farm.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2016/08/23/the-rich-are-different-at-the-olympics

When it comes down to it though, pretty much anything outside the OG Olympic sports and martial arts requires money. I get that Dressage may be peak, but my bet is that the stories of people from poor backgrounds are the outliers.

My only knowledge of dressage comes from an ex who had a horse and stable shared with a mate to keep costs down. She had a decent job, but wasn't minted or from a wealthy family. But then by the time she had the money to keep a horse, she'd probably have been too old to develop the skills to compete...

...so yeah maybe you're right.

But ultimately all professional sports are about exclusivity not inclusively.

My friend, who was clearly wrong. However a quick google will show that the £20m sale happened so my point still stands.

Edit: The guy who sold owner and sold her horse was born in Sark. Thats all you need to know about his family wealth.

fwiw, my cousin was a Commonwealth games silver medalist in gymnastics and her / our family were dirt poor. the local community gym got here there, the only cost to my Aunt was time and petrol money.

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You know they used to have poetry in the Olympics.

My colleagues spent yesterday discussing current/future Olympic sports and saying yes/no.

I.e. Artistic Gymnastics if yes why not Ballet?

Guy from my old run club managed to start his own fashion label from the ground up in the mid -late 2010's and has been doing quite well for himself so has been organising a lot of charitable stuff for his home country of Sierra Leone.

Last year he worked with the SL olympics committee to design and provide their uniforms for the 2020 olympics and got a ton of coverage globally on the design all positive, all the way up to the opening ceremonies this year he never had any indication they'd changed their minds but at the opening ceremony they came out wearing a different uniform emblazoned with a ticket hospitality companies logo instead.

Money always gets priority.

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Did you learn all of this from the constant <3warming backstory montage dross being aired everyteim someone does something.

If there was a "Charlotte Dujardin is from an only moderately wealthy family (but has earned a fuck load since) and rides for a very rich tax exile" puff piece, I must have missed it.

I now really want a dancing horse and a juggling monkey

Would hope that Dujardin had a contract clause that would give her a cut of that, seeing as she's why the horse is worth so much.

Maybe it's the other way around and the horse is the real talent?