The Ultimate Brakeless/Front/Rear/How many brakes? thread

Its times like there is where I have to ask myself....
What would Jesus do?

Most don't go quick enough to really fly over the handle bars if they grabbed the brake.
Whilst those that do have good enough bike handling skills to lock the rear wheel without a break. init

indeed.

you don't need brakes you just need luck

Its times like there is where I have to ask myself....
What would Jesus do?

a miracle.

you don't need brakes you just need luck

Finally the answer if found! Dicki has sorted it!

Do you reckon Jesus uses brakes? I bet he just relies on the power of God.......bloody Hipster.

Its times like there is where I have to ask myself....
What would Jesus do?

A skid!!!

Jesus is draggin' 'round a fuckoff big cross.. he's going too slow to need brakes.

On the third day he rose again, in accordance to the scriptures. He left the cross behind. He died for our sins, so that leaves him both free and dead, he probably drives a car.

I ditched the rear brake in 07, the front in 08, and for 09 i am going the whole hog and going NoChain™

Riding with just a front SS is as sensible as riding brakeless on fixed, but hey,you takes your chances - i am more concerned about the number of clueless fuckwits riding around brakeless on fixed who nearly kill me on a regular basis than someone riding an SS with one brake.

I'm nopt anti riding brakeless, but i only know of a few riders who can do it safely

Jesus rides a Vespa.

I'm anti-everything.

Apple pie FTW

Jesus is draggin' 'round a fuckoff big cross.. he's going too slow to need brakes.

Jesus?

I'm not anti riding brakeless, but i only know of a few riders who can do it safely

Clearly we haven't met yet :p

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Surely it's best to put your weight forward making sure you're within the limits so you don't fall over, if you're in the position where you're going to chuck yourself over the front then you're really not that good at handling your bike.

When I was getting in the habit of skip stopping I remember I was slowing coming up to a side road (just incase someone was to pull out) someone did pull out, and as I was lifting my rear wheel off the ground I instinctively pulled the front brake, meaning my rear wheel came much more of the ground than i'd intended, but I didn't go over the handlebars, I realised what i'd done and let go of the brake.

I don't think that means I have super reflexes, I think the majority of people who ride should be able to do that, it's a complete mystery to me how people can throw themselves over the bars by braking.

"You can get the rear wheel to help you stop. More weight on rear wheel, more normal force and thus more friction and ultimately quicker stopping."

I don't get this bit, if you're talking about friction in braking, then it's much easier to get more friction from the front, which is why a front brake only will stop quicker than a rear brake only.

As a lot have said already, use the rear for controlling speed, and the front for stopping.

But yes, always 2 brakes on an SS.

When I said chuck yourself over the front I wasnt being literal.

However

Think about it.

When braking hard with both brakes,

The front brake in always so strong so the bike wants to rotate over the front wheel thus creating an endo and the back brake is likely to lock up because it loses grip due to having little/no weight there.

You are also moving forward and as the bike decellerates you are moving faster and your arms are going to be taking most of this force and this gets transferred to the front wheel and increases friction between the tyre and the road. (If you have a mountain bike with suspension you can see this happen, brake really hard while riding at walking pace while just sitting on the bike and the front forks will compress).

Sticking your arse over the back wheel doesn't remove this force from the front wheel, because the force is transferred via the handle bars.

i'm with vinyl villan there are plenty of idiots with a full set / pair of brakes

I ditched the rear brake in 07, the front in 08, and for 09 i am going the whole hog and going NoChain™

Riding with just a front SS is as sensible as riding brakeless on fixed, but hey,you takes your chances - i am more concerned about the number of clueless fuckwits riding around brakeless on fixed who nearly kill me on a regular basis than someone riding an SS with one brake.

I'm nopt anti riding brakeless, but i only know of a few riders who can do it safely

+1

Thing is there are far too many people who ride fixed for a month, learn to skid, think that means they can stop safely, then ditch their brakes. The people i know who have been riding fixed longest hardly ever skid except when they really need to, and knowing how to skid has nothing to do with having good bike/braking control.

^ Is this because people keep shouting 'Do a skid!' at them?

When I said chuck yourself over the front I wasnt being literal.

However

Think about it.

When braking hard with both brakes,

The front brake in always so strong so the bike wants to rotate over the front wheel thus creating an endo and the back brake is likely to lock up because it loses grip due to having little/no weight there.

You are also moving forward and as the bike decellerates you are moving faster and your arms are going to be taking most of this force and this gets transferred to the front wheel and increases friction between the tyre and the road. (If you have a mountain bike with suspension you can see this happen, brake really hard while riding at walking pace while just sitting on the bike and the front forks will compress).

Sticking your arse over the back wheel doesn't remove this force from the front wheel, because the force is transferred via the handle bars.

Maximum Deceleration--Panic Stops

The fastest that you can stop any bike of normal wheelbase is to apply the front brake so hard that the rear wheel is just about to lift off the ground. In this situation, the rear brake cannot contribute to stopping power, since it has no traction.

Won't I Go Over The Bars?

The rear brake is O.K. for situations where traction is poor, or for when your front tire blows, but for stopping on dry pavement, the front brake all by itself provides the maximum stopping power, both in theory and in practice.

From the great man himself.

The more you move yourself back, the less braking force you get on the front wheel.

Anyway, let's get back to the comedy posts.

^ Is this because people keep shouting 'Do a skid!' at them?

Its the only reason to bother learning how to skid dont you know

Anyway, let's get back to the comedy posts.

No Mick.. we need to look further into Jesus options

Its times like there is where I have to ask myself....
What would Jesus do?

nothing he is dead