The Ultimate Brakeless/Front/Rear/How many brakes? thread

Some bullshit about brakes and hipsters or something in the Aussie press today.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/milliondollar-fines-to-put-the-brakes-on-bikes-20100814-1248l.html

"After thick-rimmed glasses [ALMOST STOPPED READING] a ''fixie'' bike is the hipster's ultimate accessory. With sleek lines, retro colours, no gears and often no br"[STOPPED READING]

Did a similar thing myself, lost so much skin, I looked like something out of hellraiser. Could'nt for the life of me, explain what had happened, to Mrs Smallfurry.

Went clean over the bars of the 29er a few days ago, brand new candy's did'nt unclip, and me and the bike did a cool sumersault. Did'nt exactly 'land it' though :(

That's where my superior skillz came in. I just did a roly poly and continued on my way. Well I started the roly poly anyway but the bike thought otherwise in playing a part of it.

a few people on here, have gone over the bars in an emergency grabbing a handful of front brake, there are a few broken collar bones to prove it

Uncos.

I don't know anyone who's crashed whilst riding brakless..

Some bullshit about brakes and hipsters or something in the Aussie press today.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/milliondollar-fines-to-put-the-brakes-on-bikes-20100814-1248l.html

That's old(ish) news and basically just talking about the existing bike sale laws.
Basically, if the bike is custom the laws are not applied, ergo, the whole thing is bullshit.

http://www.lfgss.com/post1580027-6.html from http://www.lfgss.com/thread48965.html

Sorry, I didn't read it either.

I don't read anything on after the first few posts on these threads. I just copy and paste my arguments from 3 years ago. It's all about getting the last word in..

I am building a bike which will have no brakes. So I'll have one with and one without...

I am buying a car so I can.. nah I've got nothing. Drink drive?

That's where my superior skillz came in. I just did a roly poly and continued on my way. Well I started the roly poly anyway but the bike thought otherwise in playing a part of it.

Just to be clear they were two seperate incidents. The skinning incident was a fixed feck up. The 29er incident was down to me not noticing the big sludge filled hole in th trail.

I am building a bike which will have no brakes. So I'll have one with and one without...

I have 3 bikes but only two helmets. is that the same thing? [/fence sitter]

There is a dragon in that trifle.

It's a sock puppet, not a dragon. Noob

Compromise? Sock dragon.

It has wings you fucking numbskull.

Ooh, that was meant for hippy.

Its Nessie the trifle monster.

Not quite as well known as its Lock Ness residing relative admittedly.

Hang-on its bleeding!

The humanity, what a loss, we had so much to learn.....:C

It has wings you fucking numbskull.

No it doesn't. Check your optical adjustment facilities.

Now the debate drags triffle in.

What has triffle ever done to you?

No it doesn't. Check your optical adjustment facilities.

No, I see what hes saying......still more like a trifle phenix in that case.

Sparky, last bit from me, just make sure your article makes note that riding brakeless isn't the default position for people that ride fixed. Most articles that mention riding fixed, imply/state that to ride fixed is to ride brakeless. As this debate shows it is not.
I bought a keirin frame in Japan it will be my summer ride next year, it will be brakeless, it will join my track bike (for the track goddammit) brakeless, the road bike two brakes and gears, the bmx (up for sale probably) two brakes but both are shit for slowing it down, and the new Ti beast (once I take the bastards to court to get my money) fixed with a front brake.

That is all...

I grabbed a big handful of front brake just as I got to the lights at a crossroads near E&C a couple of years back. It had just gone red as I got near and I decided I needed to not be going across, but I tipped up forwards and went right through the junction on my front wheel.

Terrifying, exhilarating and completely unrepeatable, even if I had eternity to practice in.

But that was a real panic moment, and I must have had the instinct to feather it as I tipped or I'd have gone right over. I still think front brakes are needed/safe in emergencies. Even if things didn't go too well that time. If a front didn't stop me going through, a rear skid never would have.

It must be an E&C thing - I was riding past the shopping centre one day a couple of years back and a numpty predestrian (and there are many in that neck of the woods) stepped into my path from behind a bus. I grabbed a handful of front brake and did a funny front wheel endo thing for about 5 feet before gently headbutting the aforementioned pedestrian as I came to a halt. He apologised. I accepted his apology and rode off.

Road Bike - 2 brakes and gears.
Nagasawa - front brake and fixed.

I love riding the Nagasawa in Tokyo. I don't ride brakeless for these reasons-

1) My knees are fuct.
2) Tokyoites are notorious step-out-in-fronters.
3) The law is on the pedestrians side no matter if they are at fault.
4) Health care and ambulances are not free.
5) I'm a guest so I guess its better to follow the rules of the country.

That's it.

I didn't manage to meet blackfoot when he was here which was a shame.

corny

what is the new ti beast going to be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxLcZau_YaM

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