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  • Kinlin XR200?

  • does anyone make wide (like 23mm) 700c ceramic/css rims?

    Ryde Andra 40 at 25mm internal is the next size up

  • Have been considering these but may just go with AmClass because even though they're more expensive they do come out wider.

    http://www.amclassic.com/en/products/rims/acrd-2218-tubeless-road-rims

    Might even run them tubeless...

    Got a deal on some mack superlight LF track hubs so I'm thinking those laced up with CX rays should be a pretty nice wheelset.

  • Yes, but CSS is not a ceramic coating. And considering its intense durability I would be really interested in testing its longevity against disc brake rotors. The tungsten carbide coating really is that good.

    I've built with quite a few of these rims and to take an example from one case, their complete lack of wear after being used for long commuter miles for two years from a seriously big guy, a 21 stone ex-rower, who rides 100-120 miles a week in all conditions and absolutely luuurrrrves to sit on the brakes.
    For context I built this guy a rear wheel using a Mavic XM719, if I remember correctly, and within a month his braking habits and bulk combined to wear the rim concave as if it had been used for a year by a normal sized brake botherer. I was astounded when the wheel came back in for the standard post-wheel build check.
    I looked at his Andra rim the other day and the braking surface is virtually unscathed.

    All this just makes me want the CSS-suitable brake blocks for caliper brakes more! This makes me a rich retrogrouch or something.

    Maybe I could carve my own out of the V brake ones?!

  • can't be limited to the 45PSI of stans.

    You can actually go higher, as long it's not above 100psi.

  • I've read reports that you can run above 45 with a tube in but I'd rather not chance it tbh.

  • Ryde pulse sprint is 385g and has a black brake track now. That is only option that meet your criteria.

  • Cool!

    Shame, cos tester reminded me about what twats rich retrogrouches are, I've decided to throw all seven of my bikes away and get something with discs.

  • CSS is not a ceramic coating

    Perhaps you can explain to us what it is then, if a metal carbide (ceramic) applied to a surface (coating) is not a ceramic coating. It's may not be the same ceramic as Mavic use, but it's plasma sprayed just like Mavic's process.

  • tester reminded me about what twats rich retrogrouches are

    I didn't say they were twats, just that they were too small a demographic for a large scale manufacturer to court.

  • I was under the impression that the CSS process is significantly different to the the ceramic coating used by Mavic and therefore could not be termed as such.
    I could well be mistaken. I'll do more thorough reading on the subject and get back to you.

    If you have any pertinent info and and links on this subject do tell me.

  • It is still a ceramic coating. Tungsten carbide is a ceramic material.

  • If you have any pertinent info and and links on this subject do tell me.

    This looks to have been lifted verbatim from Rigida/Ryde promotional material, although the stuff that's actually on various Rigida/Ryde sites now seems to a: have lost something in translation and b: been oversimplified for a non-technical audience. This image claims Mach 7 for second generation CSS, which is pretty impressive when general plasma spraying companies talk about speeds of up to Mach 2, so Rigida might be awfully clever.

    If you want to while away an enjoyable evening, have a look through some research papers on splat formation as a function of particle velocity and temperature :-)

  • 'Splat formation' sounds ACE.

  • I see tomatoes.
    Then again, I'm pretty whaled right now.

  • I'm disappointed Carbide-Supersonic-Oberflächenbeschichtung has hyphens. Carbidesupersonicoberflächenbeschichtung is what I'd want my wheels to have.

  • Great, thanks. I'll take a look and perhaps next time I can actually know what I'm talking about. :-)

  • Small joys: teaching my Father-in-law how to lace wheels

  • :)

    He looks a happy chap, he hasn't spoked a whole wheel and discovered he messed up the valve spokes yet? ;)

  • Nah he really liked it and got it right. Zinn's instructions are written so well eh.

  • Any thoughts on powder coating spokes? Trued and re-tensioned a set in the past but have a client at the moment who want to paint the rim and spokes. So I've taken the wheel apart. Guess the process will cover the threads so I'll need to scrape it off. I suggested using BMX spokes as an alternative due to them being available in various colours and the wheel being small but he seems keen on the powder coat.

    I also need to disassemble a Shimano Nexus hub for a powder coat too. It goes into a kiln / oven right? So grease will need to be removed?

  • I have seen cn-spoke spokes in different colours.

    The red, white and blue are actually possible to buy as well on ebay and not just vapourware :) Is it a special colour?

  • Rattlecan the whole wheel afterwards, like an 11 year old and his BMX.

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