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Fair enough.

Not sure where to ask this but:
Recently purchased a Shimano RS500 30mm bladed spoke wheelset. Everything seems fine, nice and true and they spin very freely. However looking closely at the front hub and the DS flange while the wheel is spinning reveals a vertical movement in the hub shell/flange, like it's out of round or there's a bent axle or something. Thing is it's perfectly true at the rim, maybe .5mm vertical movement at the rim, if that. So what could be going on? Warped hub shell? There's no play in the bearings either. I am not overly worried as the wheelset was £80 but I have never seen a hub look out of round. Shimano QC slipping?

It's best not to look closely at the hubs on R501s :-)

Ah, I see. I'll just pretend I never looked then and ride them into the ground.

Cheap things are cheap.

Wanting a rim roughly 23mm wide, 32 hole. For training, light touring and high mileage wheels, not bothered about weight, thinking mavic A719's anything else I should consider?

All the usual suspects, archetypes, sputniks, grizzly.

^ this. Just read the thread.

Grizzly CSS would be my choice.

Archetypes are awesome to build up.

It's probably psychosomatic, but they feel faster too, even with 28mm Grand Bois.

It's probably psychosomatic, but they feel faster too, because of 28mm Grand Bois.

ftfy

Those tyres are quick.

Ah, I see. I'll just pretend I never looked then and ride them into the ground.

Cheap things are cheap.

The bearings are probably a tad on the loose side, hence revealing a less than perfect tolerance... nothing to worry about, they are agricultural grade bearings and do the job well... if you want accurate tolerances and Japanese precision you need to go up to the Ultegra level (actually that is still Malaysian precision, Dura Ace is Japanese precision), yours are kind of Tiagr level

I think they're at least two levels below Tiagra.

You can replace the balls with higher grade ones from simplybearings.co.uk, if you want a tiny marginal gain :-)

Speaking of Dura Ace, someone has 10 x NOS Dura Ace 7800 32H front hubs for £40 each on Ebay at the moment. The skewers alone would probably sell for £20.

Speaking of Dura Ace, someone has 10 x NOS Dura Ace 7800 32H front hubs for £40 each on Ebay at the moment. The skewers alone would probably sell for £20.

Tempting, but difficult to find a match, as Shimano have not made that tone of silver hubs in a while... 105 is darker... maybe a DA 7900, but they are pretty rare and expensive things

Walking down the super-toroidal road - fancying a set of 60mm WU6C rims. Questioning myself the amount of holes needed - the wheels will be used on my fix gear bike, riding the streets and going gently off-road now and then. Rider weight 85kg. I feel like my number of spokes on this one would be 24h front and 28h rear (2x) on standard novatec track hubs. Is there any sense in this - structuralwise? :]

Walking down the super-toroidal road - fancying a set of 60mm WU6C rims. Questioning myself the amount of holes needed - the wheels will be used on my fix gear bike, riding the streets and going gently off-road now and then. Rider weight 85kg. I feel like my number of spokes on this one would be 24h front and 28h rear (2x) on standard novatec track hubs. Is there any sense in this - structuralwise? :]

There is a lot of sense, the question is: can you get rims drilled in anything different than 20/24? The only ones I have seen are the Ebay ones, drilled at request, but it's hard to know what the hell you are buying and they sometimes end up like this one

Jason from Yishunbike gives me a time of 3-4 weeks for the 'custom drilling' and asks me if the 28h rear is for a disc brake build - it gives me some small confidence that the salesman asks about the purpose of the customisation.

Buying non-reviewed 2015 line-up rims is a gamble, with a good gut-feel as the main carrier :]

Jason from Yishunbike gives me a time of 3-4 weeks for the 'custom drilling' and asks me if the 28h rear is for a disc brake build - it gives me some small confidence that the salesman asks about the purpose of the customisation.

Buying non-reviewed 2015 line-up rims is a gamble, with a good gut-feel as the main carrier :]

The thing is it's a fixed gear, so realistically you won't have problems with overheating, delaminating etc... that rim in the photo split open coming down after 2.5 miles of a 9% descent... nothing of that sort in London.

Yes - my thoughts as well.

brakeless and disc brakes is about the same for the rim.
28 could probably be laced 3 cross, depending on flange and rim height.

^ Hmmm, interested to see how this goes, as the 50mm and 38mm ones look perfect for what I'm hoping to build up in the next 2-3months, but using with disc brakes, not fixed, and 28h/28h.

Any idea on the price Thuekr?

Price is on the steep side (2015 line-up and the widest toroidal adds to the price, I guess).

WU6C will be available 2 weeks later once the order is confirmed. It is $177/pc for sample. The cost of shipping is $53 via EMS and take about 7-11 days to Denmark.

3-4 weeks for the custom 28H.

I'd say for carbon rims it's a pretty decent price... the Gigantex ones here in the UK come at 200 GBP a piece and they are tubulars, normally cheaper than clinchers!

If that's combined shipping, that comes out as £242 shipped, not bad at all.

Yes it's combined shipping - at the moment they are fiddling to find the ERD number, their old 2014 rims have the number, but not the not commercial released 2015 rims like the WU6C I'm heading for.

Should I give a f*** about ERD number, and measure it myself upon arrival, since you can't trust no-one measurewise in this regard anyway?

Do it yourself when you get them every time.

Have ordered rims before that were out by 3-4mm from the stated ERD, which really pissed me off as only realised when halfway through build and meant buying two lots of spokes.